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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#21426: Nov 28th 2016 at 1:31:37 PM

Tere's a difference between "Quiet room" And "anechoic chamber"

The later's health risk are well studied. Stay long enough and people lose their balance. It's different than "A room with no noise" because a anechoic chamber prevents the noise YOU make from bouncing back to you.

Nasa uses anechoic chambers on astronauts because there's a real risk they might snap working in space.

edited 28th Nov '16 1:32:19 PM by Ghilz

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#21427: Nov 28th 2016 at 1:36:12 PM

We only want the sounds in our head...and the undescribable sound in your ears that comes after dead silence.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21428: Nov 28th 2016 at 2:29:39 PM

Right. I'm a little late to the Female fighter discussion (which is funny, because I've always been annoyed at the lack of female fighter in the series):

The final saga of the original Dragon Ball series focuses on Goku and Chichi learning to be a respectable married couple, but specifically on teaching Chichi subservience to her new husband, a trait rather out-of-fashion in Western society these days. And that's not even getting into the mountain that actively repels any female that attempts to climb it, a fact which only "bad girl" Mai seems to have a problem with.

Took me a while (and only after reading a few posts) to realize that the mountain was metaphorical.

As others have said, no female character really tried to climb it. (18, hilariously enough, basically got dragged up said mountain, kicked the guy who dragged her up there to his death, then just stuck around where she was, because few people could actually pass her).

Do I wish there were more straight up female fighters in the series? Hell yes! It's just very odd to me that all the significantly powerful fighters are mostly male (there's Vados, but I always said we'd never see her so much as throw a punch, and coincidentally enough, her status as a angel means she never will, despite being quite possible the strongest non mortal female fighter in the series).

There's the House-wife Lan-fan (whose strategy was stripping), Chi-Chi, who was brought back at complete random, and is only married to Goku because Toriyama wanted to force himself to draw her more as punishment, 18, who's still pretty awesome, but suffers from the same Can't Catch Up as everyone else, male or female) and Videl, who was already outclassed, then got a horrific beatdown from a big hulking male, and promptly gave up fighting to become a house wife afterwards.

Now, at any point, Toriyama could have perhaps done a bit more with some of his characters, but he doesn't seem to think about them much as fighters. They sometimes can fight, but that doesn't seem to be thing that decides whether they are important. Bulma is still pretty much a main character, despite the fact that she can't so much as throw a punch to save her life (Time Machine folks).

Maybe if there wasn't such a massive power-creep, but that wouldn't be Dragonball.

......Wow. I don't really know if I have anything to say that hasn't already been said.

....I will admit, I'm dreading Videl's arrival with how Dende is acting....unless she's the one that gets cut out.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#21429: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:00:12 PM

Calling it now, Dende and Videl will actually get along really well because that would be unexpected and funnier.

Assuming they ever interact. I'm not exactly a DBZ person.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21430: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:00:33 PM

Ghilz: I was referring to said chambers. The soundproofing equipment on the walls and door was quite noticeable. You could hear his heartbeat on the sound track because of how quiet the room was.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#21431: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:02:01 PM

I feel like with this discussion of good female characters, Future Mai isn't being mentioned enough. She was awesome and was able to survive against quite possibly the strongest non-Beerus antagonist in the series so far with nothing but a gun and determination.

On the topic of Dende and Videl, I can't think of a single moment where they ever interact and I think they only are ever even in the same location once. Any interaction between them would have to be painfully forced.

edited 28th Nov '16 3:04:18 PM by LordVatek

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#21432: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:02:16 PM

Ohhh, God, I forgot about Videl being on the lookout during the Buu Saga. That's going to be painfully unfunny.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#21433: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:04:10 PM

Or it's going to be a big nothing...neutral syle.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#21434: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:07:18 PM

Speaking of Future Mai, why is she young in the future? She's chronologically older than Bulma, but if the Dragonballs were destroyed when Piccolo was killed by the androids then I don't see how she would be able to wish herself young in that timeline.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21435: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:11:47 PM

They apparently did it sometime during the time skip between Trunks first killing Frieza and the Android / Cell Saga.

Note that they appear to be the same approximate age as Current Trunks.

So it still could have happened.

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Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#21436: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:25:12 PM

They apparently made the wish right before piccolo died, literally moments before.

edited 28th Nov '16 3:25:22 PM by Thebrawlbro

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#21437: Nov 28th 2016 at 3:33:01 PM

Oh, during that 2, or was it 3, year timeskip? But, if the wish made them as old as present Trunks is, wouldn't that mean they were turned into babies?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21439: Nov 28th 2016 at 4:18:19 PM

Oh right. That was mentioned in the Super Manga wasn't it?

Damn Pilaf Gang.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#21440: Nov 28th 2016 at 4:29:31 PM

I for one am looking forward to seeing Videl and Dende interact.

Something tells me he's not gonna be super-possessive of Gohan, though. Probably grill Videl to make sure she's nothing less than perfect for him, of course.

I'm also looking forward to seeing what they do about Videl "attacking" Gohan.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21441: Nov 28th 2016 at 4:52:28 PM

I'm pretty sure we're gonna see something about that particular scene.tongue

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#21442: Nov 28th 2016 at 5:07:45 PM

TFS is pretty well aware of Yanderes so I don't think there should be too much concerns for Dende going down that route without poking fun at it.

edited 28th Nov '16 5:08:01 PM by IceAnt573

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#21443: Nov 28th 2016 at 8:39:31 PM

[up] (3)

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Speaking of Future Mai, why is she young in the future

Bulma looks younger too, and is showing more cleavage than she ever did in Dragonball. I'm still perplexed by that.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#21444: Nov 28th 2016 at 9:17:13 PM

I know this is really late, but I'm still salty about what happened to Videl.

She was a really great and unique introduction to the Buu saga when she first appeared and she provided a really interesting perspective into the series.

And then she spent twenty minutes getting beaten to death by a man while everyone just watches in silence and then she gives up martial arts forever to become a housewife with hardly any screentime or lines at all.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21445: Nov 28th 2016 at 9:30:36 PM

It's a shitty thing.

And in the end, Videl doesn't even get the chance to get back at him for the beating. Hell, not even Gohan does, because the plot tossed him out since he was irrelevant.

So her beating served no real purpose.

Also, I'm still utterly baffled by how no one tried to stop the match. The fact that he wasn't actually cheating doesn't change the complete lack of class in his actions (especially once he pulled her back into the ring to continue the match). I mean, if he'd continued, he likely would have killed her, so you'd think they'd make an exception and just stop the fucking match.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#21446: Nov 28th 2016 at 9:34:09 PM

Calling it now, Dende and Videl will actually get along really well because that would be unexpected and funnier.

I really hope so, because the alternative feels like it would get real annoying real fast.

Like how the obvious joke with Krillin and 18 would be having his relationship with her be just as miserable and disfunctional the rest of his life, but Abridged did something ultimately smarter and more interesting by having her legitimately like him and give the two unambiguously heartwarming moments (which is more than any other couple so far can say).

This is the same way. Instead of have Dende's entire response to Videl be more "I'm a dick! I'm obsessed with Gohan, so I'll be even more of a dick" they should do something different and have the characters grow a bit.

edited 28th Nov '16 9:36:01 PM by KnownUnknown

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#21447: Nov 28th 2016 at 9:37:19 PM

[up][up]Not only that, the show tried to pin the blame on her for not giving up against Spopovitch.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#21448: Nov 28th 2016 at 10:48:40 PM

Videl getting the crud beaten out of her is probably one of her best moments. It's a very memorable one, and shows that she's comparable to the men. Until her, no woman had taken a beating like that onscreen; only the men. She's a fighter and she lost like a fighter, unlike, say Ranfan.

And every Dragonball character gets fucked over at some point for the sake of Goku saving the day. Not even your Xenoverse self-insert character is safe from him.

edited 28th Nov '16 10:49:06 PM by Cruherrx

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#21449: Nov 28th 2016 at 11:10:34 PM

Yea, Videl was a good character...who just got assassinated unfortunately. Tragic but we must look towards the future.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21450: Nov 29th 2016 at 4:05:18 AM

It's Super that really dropped the ball with Videl. She wasn't shown being so bland before that.

Also, that entry that was being discussed (about Chichi learning subservience) is not only incredibly biased, but also talking about a filler arc.

Nah.

Well debated my dude

[up][up][up] Uh... not at all. Everyone comments on how much of a prick Spopovich is and even his own teammate tells him to knock it off. There is a line from Goku that Videl should just give up to stop it, but that's not blaming her and is a mere statement of fact.

edited 29th Nov '16 4:06:48 AM by Saiga


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