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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#21276: Nov 26th 2016 at 6:15:45 PM

Most people aren't mad scientists trying to take over the world.

Of Course!

edited 26th Nov '16 6:16:03 PM by Lionheart0

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#21277: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:09:02 PM

This episode was more or less exactly what I was afraid of: Filler. I know I shouldn't be shocked, but it's just that their upload schedule is already horrible. That means we won't get the proper Cell Games for like 6 months.

edited 26th Nov '16 9:18:03 PM by Codafett

Just Having Fun
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21278: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:12:51 PM

So, what, were they just supposed to skip the introduction of Mr. Satan and Bringing the Dragon Balls back?

Calling their schedule horrible already raises red flags.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#21279: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:15:21 PM

I wouldn't call this Filler. We had the introduction of Mr. Satan, Dende's return as well as the Dragon balls, some backstory with 16, and Chichi becoming pregnant. This was a very important episode. If it was filler, you could skip it without missing anything.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#21280: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:17:08 PM

Seriously, Abridged is not about long fights, it is about character interaction. World Building.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#21281: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:18:05 PM

Jokes. Sex. Sex jokes.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#21282: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:23:33 PM

[up][up]It's about humor.

[up]What he said.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#21284: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:33:38 PM

Them trying to do world-building is just a bonus...depending on the person of course.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#21285: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:44:43 PM

Of course, there is plenty of chances for comedy on dialogue, more than in choreographed fights I'd say.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#21286: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:52:24 PM

I'd say Eriorguez is right. Team Four Star's been taking a The Venture Brothers approach to their abridged series since the Namek Saga entered the Ginyu fights at least.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#21287: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:56:10 PM

Nah, I think comedy is still their first and foremost priority, otherwise they wouldn't have so much Rule of Funny, and the humorless, somber moments would be more frequent.

They've obviously shifted toward including character development, but it's mostly just building on the development that was already present in the original manga, and still secondary to making comedy.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#21288: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:58:18 PM

We said the same thing honestly.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#21289: Nov 26th 2016 at 8:01:32 PM

Ah.

I've only seen, like, one episode of the Venture Bros., so I wouldn't know.

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Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
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#21290: Nov 26th 2016 at 9:20:53 PM

Call me Mr. Unpopular Opinion but I'd rather they stick to the jokes than try to pull any serious drama. World building and character interaction really doesn't seem...I don't know, necessary to a parody series.

Just Having Fun
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#21291: Nov 26th 2016 at 9:23:16 PM

Well at this point it's barely even a parody. It's basically another dub.

My various fanfics.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#21292: Nov 26th 2016 at 9:24:17 PM

I'm fine with how it is currently. I expect some of the more serious moments like 16's death or Buu killing everyone to have some gravitas to them, balanced with some comedy, but there's not too much else in the drama department scheduled anyway.

edited 26th Nov '16 9:24:53 PM by Anomalocaris20

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#21293: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:44:47 PM

You can absolutely do both, but I feel that some of the serious moments in the series tend to be ruined by Mood Whiplash at times (like the Gero's son scene which, quality of the scene itself aside, felt completely out of place to me).

edited 26th Nov '16 11:45:54 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21294: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:47:13 PM

I think for the most part they tend to blend comedy, abridging, and characterization well. But sometimes jokes just fall flat, and sometimes you just disagree with their handling of something serious.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21295: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:48:16 PM

[up][up][up][up] It would be an incredibly shitty dub if it was being treated that way.

I think Kaiser is particularly vehement about not treating the series like a serious dubbing because that would go completely against his own artistic vision and be an outright insult.

edited 26th Nov '16 11:48:43 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21296: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:50:42 PM

[up]No see, it's unofficial, so that automatically makes it better than anything official and the true dub. That's seriously how a lot of people look at it, and it's super annoying.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21297: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:53:18 PM

yeah that bugs me

The dubs that edited footage, completely rewrote characters and scenes, and make it a huge joke are a hallmark of really terrible dubs from the worst period of dubbing history.

Abridged isn't part of that because it's not intending to be an accurate representation of the series.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#21298: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:55:13 PM

They're overvaluing the entertainment that comes from comedy and series references.

edited 26th Nov '16 11:55:43 PM by randomness4

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21299: Nov 26th 2016 at 11:55:37 PM

I mean, if you enjoy the abridged more as entertainment, that's one thing, and I can understand it. But if you're actually claiming it's a proper, and even better retelling of the story...yeah, no.

Really, that always just seemed like an insult to everyone involved to me.

edited 26th Nov '16 11:56:12 PM by LSBK

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#21300: Nov 27th 2016 at 12:01:15 AM

Well you have to understand that not everyone views "more accurate to the source" as necessarily better.

That being said Abridged leaves out the driving episode so it cannot be considered the definitive version of Dragonball Z.


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