Zarbon. It weakened him in his monster form enough for Vegeta to finish him off.
and also a planet blowing up afterwards
I mean, "survive" is a relative term. It definitely ended the fight. And Frieza wasn't really able to. Y'know. Do much. Until his daddy pieced him back together. I don't think he was even conscious. And then after that when Sorbet used magical science on him.
Ending a fight doesn't really make it fatal, though.
Like, when Kame-sennin as Jackie Chun landed the kick that knocked Goku out and won the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, I wouldn't call that kick a fatal blow.
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Does that really count if Vegeta had the fight in the bag from the word go?
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Didn't put him in a coma he needed medical assistance to get out of either though.
Like, I'm not sure how conscious Frieza was when he came back during Resurrection F as a bunch of cubes but it didn't seem to be very much or for very long. He needed a healing pod to wake up.
I dunno how Frieza's anatomy works exactly, but we do see him drink wine, so I'm guessing he has some form of digestion. Even if it's weird and somehow every cell of him can function as a stomach or whatever, he needs to be able to get to food. if he's drained of energy and crippled he can't reach anything.
edited 27th Oct '16 10:45:20 AM by unnoun
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Oh yeah. That.
Why did Gohan jump out like that again? They would have succeeded if Vegeta had never known anyone else was there in the first place.
I think it's because Vegeta was crushing Goku at the time, but I can't fully recall.
One Strip! One Strip!It was suppose to be a distraction...but it doesn't work since he already didn't know they came back.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.He most likely meant Gohand being the distraction...
If he didn't do that, suspicion wouldn't have been raised and Krillin could've cut some tail.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I can see where it was a bad idea. Knowing Vegeta like we do, indulging his sadism against a defeated foe is more likely to keep him distracted than the sudden arrival of a foe he knows has no shot at beating him, which gave him that moment of, "Why does that idiot think he can win? Wait, it this a trap?"
Gohan made him suspicious, where he was previously drowning in ego. Once both Krillin and Gohan were clearly identified, he resumed drowning in ego, which made him vulnerable to Yajirobe. Had Gohan never revealed himself and just let Vegeta bask in his own awesomeness unimpeded, it's entirely possible that Krillin might have accomplished what Yajirobe ultimately did.
Vegeta's greatest strength is his experience and intellect, but his greatest weakness is his pride. However, I can see where Gohan and Krillin wouldn't think of that, because they didn't really know him that well at the time. Getting his attention so he'll stop crushing Goku for a moment and focus on Gohan was a bad call, but also the best call given their information at the time.
edited 28th Oct '16 8:36:54 AM by TobiasDrake
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It might have been better to have Gohan launch an attack, even a small one.
Whether he got lucky and hit the other eye, or did nothing, Vegeta would have been better distracted since he was just attacked, and if Krillin attacked immediately after that, he might have pulled it off.
As it is, the Kienzan is another in the long list of attacks that accomplish nothing, though at least it was never hyped up like the Spirit bomb, which took until the very end of the series to work, and only because the heroes made the worst possible choice on how to win.
One Strip! One Strip!See, now I'm just picturing Gohan throwing a ki blast and Vegeta going "LOL" and blocking it with Goku.
Which would be hilarious AND keep him distracted for the Kienzan.
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Trying to think of a way for Gohan to do what I suggested without Vegeta pulling the stunt Tobias mentioned. He'd probably have to attack really fast to be honest, or maybe from a blind spot.
One Strip! One Strip!Well, blocking with Goku wouldn't really change whether he's distracted for Krillin's kienzan. If Gohan's blast is a distraction, it doesn't matter if it lands or not. Hitting Goku might actually be better in the long run, As I noted, what made Vegeta vulnerable before Gohan arrived and after Krillin failed was his pride. He was drunk on his own sense of self-awesomeness.
Feeding him a weak shot and letting him use Goku as a shield could allow Gohan to distract him while still letting him be high on "Yeah, I'm so great, just used Kakarot's face to block an attack, that was HILARIOUS. I'm awesome."
Either way, it's the kind of gag TFS might have done if their early day writing was up to today's standards, similar to having Vegeta's missed shot come around and smack Goku in the side during the Android 13 movie.
edited 28th Oct '16 10:28:41 AM by TobiasDrake
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....Wait. What? When did that happen?
edited 28th Oct '16 10:35:13 AM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!Gohan made him suspicious, where he was previously drowning in ego. Once both Krillin and Gohan were clearly identified, he resumed drowning in ego, which made him vulnerable to Yajirobe. Had Gohan never revealed himself and just let Vegeta bask in his own awesomeness unimpeded, it's entirely possible that Krillin might have accomplished what Yajirobe ultimately did.
All of this is completely contradicted by the fact that Vegeta, while fully committed to torturing Goku, noticed someone was there. This was before Gohan revealed himself - in fact, when he first notices, he turns toward where Kuririn is before Gohan deliberately grabs his attention.
So no, Vegeta wasn't drunk on his pride or vulnerable. He was totally going to bust Kuririn, and Gohan distracted him but not enough for Vegeta to see through it.
edited 28th Oct '16 10:37:58 AM by Saiga

That's because when 18 did it, it wasn't against anyone important.
If she'd been fighting the main villain or something, it would have failed in some way just as easily.
Don't forget that the attacks failure is as much on plot convenience as it is on anything else.
If Vegeta hadn't yelled out his warning, it would have hit Nappa.
Vegeta again knew the attack was coming (in the dub he claimed he heard it, but I don't know how the original version states it).
In both cases, the attack failed to up the tension and show that they needed something else....though I think it was kinda bullshit that Vegeta knew about Krillin but totally missed Yajirobe, but I chalk that up to Toriyama's do what's unexpected style. I bet if he hadn't foreshadowed Krillin being there, he could have taken Yajirobe's place.
It managed to cut Frieza's tail (the only damage they ever managed to inflict on him, even if it did nothing in the long run) but that's because since Frieza can survive anything it didn't matter.
18, on the other hand, was fighting in a meaningless tournament with no real stakes. So of course that's when it's successful.
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