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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#20576: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:17:08 PM

How is that dumber than Peter Parker selling his Marriage because Joe Quesada couldn't think of how to write Peter in a healthy adult relationship?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#20577: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:19:03 PM

Okay here we go.

So the short version is that Ms. Marvel is raped, gives birth to the man who raped her, falls in love with him, and then leaves Earth to marry him. The rest of the Avengers are fine with this.

My various fanfics.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20578: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:19:09 PM

I'll split the bill. One More Day is dumb from a comic book standpoint, Avengers 200 is dumb for political reasons.

edited 3rd Oct '16 7:19:25 PM by VeryMelon

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#20579: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:19:18 PM

[nja]

edited 3rd Oct '16 7:19:39 PM by LordVatek

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#20580: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:23:40 PM

So the short version is that Ms. Marvel is raped, gives birth to the man who raped her, falls in love with him, and then leaves Earth to marry him. The rest of the Avengers are fine with this.

You cut out the true dumbness. Allow me to edit it for pure dumbnessity

So the short version is that Ms. Marvel is raped, gives birth to the man who raped her and who openly admits to having mind control technology and having used it during the aforementioned rape, falls in love with him spontaneously after having been completely horrified that she had been impregnated against her will, in a sudden 180, and then leaves Earth to marry him. The rest of the Avengers are fine with this and think it's the most romantic thing ever.

The Mind Control angle is what elevates this from "wow comics are awful to women" to true infamy that looks at One more Day and goes "Come at me bro"

edited 3rd Oct '16 7:36:00 PM by Ghilz

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#20581: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:23:56 PM

[up][up][up][up] Tha fyuck?!

[up][up][up] oh.

[up] Jesus

edited 3rd Oct '16 7:24:16 PM by EchoingSilence

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20582: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:26:48 PM

Comics are dumb as shit, does that sum all of this up?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20583: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:32:47 PM

Comics are dumb, but there's a difference between good dumb and bad dumb.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#20584: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:35:22 PM

I like the good dumb! Can we go back to the good dumb?! Where we have fun and interesting characters?!

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Cross (Don’t ask)
#20586: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:38:42 PM

Never get tired of seeing that.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#20587: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:39:24 PM

I'd say that while One More Day, content-wise, isn't as bad as Avengers #200, the damage it did is still being felt, even if things have recovered since.

Avengers #200 is pretty objectively worse, but it's awfulness is fairly condensed to that issue (as far as I'm aware), and most people these days seem determined to forget it ever happened.

Oh God! Natural light!
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#20588: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:40:13 PM

That's pretty good. But I meant like the 2006 Blue Beetle series.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20589: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:42:03 PM

Was that supposed to be Captain American mutated into Godzilla or just a random monster that happened to get painted like the American flag?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#20590: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:43:56 PM

It was a guy mutated into a Godzilla monster.

Our American tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#20591: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:44:30 PM

Avengers #200 is pretty objectively worse, but it's awfulness is fairly condensed to that issue (as far as I'm aware), and most people these days seem determined to forget it ever happened.

Well it did have in universe consequences. Chris Claremont, who had written a lot of Miss Marvel was so horrified he used another anniversary book to bring her back, have Miss Marvel give a giant Take That! to the Avengers for basically doing fuck all while she was being roofied and carried off to the rape dimension, and then used that as a reason to have her pal around with the X-Men for a while.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#20592: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:57:35 PM

This is why I'm trying to make my own Superhero comics with a friend, I wanna avoid the dumb stuff and write good stuff.

You can't have a Superhero comic without the dumb stuff. Every plot has some level of stupidity. Both Heroes and Villains squander what money and resources they have into their respective Alignment.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#20593: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:59:18 PM

Well obviously. I meant the dumb stuff that makes bad comics.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#20594: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:04:59 PM

[up]x3 True. I suppose it would be more accurate to say that One More Day's consequences are still visible today, while Avengers #200 has ultimately been left to rot in hell where it belongs. Of course, One More Day is more recent...

Oh God! Natural light!
Reservoir A former adventurer... from Eastern US Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
A former adventurer...
#20595: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:17:46 PM

[up]x4 If I recall correctly, the comic version of Godzilla is a part of the Marvel Universe, as they've had a few runs of comics featuring him.

Thusly, I now want to see a fight between him and the Patriot-zilla, and I want that yesterday.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#20596: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:19:59 PM

IDW has the comic license to Godzilla now, unfortunately.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#20597: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:21:59 PM

I think we have gotten off topic here. This is a Dragon Ball Z Abridged thread here.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#20598: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:29:01 PM

[up]That's where you're wrong:

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#20599: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:29:26 PM

wild mass guessideaThe Avengers were mind controlled into being okay with it.

Like, that is the first thing I thought when I first heard about.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#20600: Oct 3rd 2016 at 8:31:40 PM

If I recall correctly, the comic version of Godzilla is a part of the Marvel Universe, as they've had a few runs of comics featuring him.

The Avengers have fought Godzilla. It was cross-country and stupid.


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