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#20251: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:04:08 PM

See above, re: cool exotic mythology.

They're about as accurate to the faith as we are with the legends and myths that we borrow to write stories about.

edited 13th Sep '16 6:04:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20252: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:06:05 PM

eeing as how God implies an omnipotent creator deity

I mean, not in a lot of religions and mythologies? Historically?

edited 13th Sep '16 6:06:23 PM by unnoun

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#20253: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:11:16 PM

Well capital-G God does anyway.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#20254: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:12:55 PM

Well the wiki page does say that they put everybody's bodies in refrigerated coffins following the battle with the Saiyans. They even have pictures. So I guess you are right.

edited 13th Sep '16 6:14:09 PM by WillKeaton

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#20255: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:13:19 PM

This is why God Job is a trope.

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#20256: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:15:11 PM

Plus, remember that technically Dende succeeds Kami after he fuses with Piccolo...when he's still a child. Ultimately the job itself is really low on the divine pecking order.

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#20257: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:20:57 PM

[up] ...Again, not that uncommon?

Well capital-G God does anyway.

That's only a thing in like. 3 religions.

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#20258: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:24:07 PM

Three pretty damn big religions, mind you.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20259: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:32:06 PM

Like, a pretty big majority of the world's population.

Still, I do find it weird people can't divorce the idea of what a god is supposed to be in anime from what they think it is in real life. I'd think the distinction would be pretty clear in a lot of series.

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#20260: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:33:39 PM

Well it helps if a person isn't literally named God, and is in fact a god as well.

edited 13th Sep '16 6:33:50 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20261: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:58:18 PM

To be fair if anime had its's way, god would be a highschool student with a massive inferiority complex.

edited 13th Sep '16 7:00:35 PM by Soble

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#20262: Sep 13th 2016 at 7:02:23 PM

If a point has to be explained with three different youtube links I guess I'll have to remain ignorant forever.

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#20263: Sep 13th 2016 at 7:52:14 PM

Ditto. Not even one Pot Hole between the three? Really?


Saw this in an ad on Facebook. It's $23 for a tank top, otherwise I'd buy the shit out of it. On the off chance TFS still reads this thread, from my trained legal perspective, it would be sufficiently different, parody merchandise to sell a similar tank top with the text
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edited 13th Sep '16 8:57:29 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#20264: Sep 14th 2016 at 6:05:08 AM

Abrahamic religions for some reason disregarded the name of their deity and instead used said deity's title as its name. It gets annoying, as said religions have a very low tolerance for other religions, and discussion gets confrontational quite easily.

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#20265: Sep 14th 2016 at 6:29:45 AM

We use the title as His "name" because it's intended to be a form of reverence and human humility that we are not worthy to speak His name, though we are capable and have the free will to do so. However, some don't believe that "that" is His "name", and some were never exposed to the idea that He has a "name".
Not everyone who follows an Abrahamic religion has low respect for others, and not all denominations do, either. It's generally a bad idea to paint with a broad brush.

And with that, I'd appreciate it if we got off this area of derail.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20266: Sep 14th 2016 at 6:31:52 AM

Yeah that's probably a good idea.

Kami is going to sh't bricks when/if TFS's version of Beerus shows up. Interesting that we've heard Goku Black's voice but not Beerus's.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#20267: Sep 14th 2016 at 9:54:27 AM

The body thing isn't actually as dumb as you might think. When Goku died his body faded away. The only person who did that during the Saiyan saga was Kami. None of the other people who were killed did that, their bodies just stayed where they were, so Toei had no indication that their bodies went with them to the afterlife. In fact it wasn't even revealed that they did keep their bodies in the afterlife until well into the Freeza saga.

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#20268: Sep 14th 2016 at 2:59:23 PM

Presumably they faded off-screen.

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#20269: Sep 14th 2016 at 3:25:09 PM

Never mind, I think I misremembered. I don't think the anime has the coffins either. I thought it did, but that's not the inconsistency, it's that Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu are shown on Kaio-sama's planet deliberating over who gets to come home first while the wish is being made. The choice goes to Yamcha and Porunga summarily resurrects him by dumping him into a nearby fountain for lulz.

The manga covers their revivals in one or two pages of text boxes explaining that the humans got revived and New Namek became a thing before moving immediately into the Mecha Frieza portion of the story, so this is one of the cases where Toei fleshed it all out on their own and, because Toei is Toei, they pointedly ignored the established canon.

Specifically, that Yamcha's revival would only remove his halo. You're revived where your remains are and he's got his with him so, like Goku, he would then have to return down Snake Way on his own and proceed through the Check-In Station to God's Lookout, then fly out to Bulma's place to meet the others.

After Porunga recuperates for another round of wishing, Tien and Chiaotzu are later shown revived on-the-spot in Bulma's courtyard as well.

This issue is especially ridiculous because earlier in the episode, they actually discuss the fact that the "revive where your remains are" thing would completely screw over Goku and Krillin's resurrections. They would pop back to life in space where Namek used to be and immediately die again. Goku sidestepped the issue by not being dead, but they had to burn a wish on moving Krillin's revival spot and then use a second to resurrect him.

That part's actually from the manga, which is why Toei got it right, but the moment they were let off the canon-chain, they immediately contradict it with Yamcha.

edited 14th Sep '16 3:26:12 PM by TobiasDrake

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#20271: Sep 14th 2016 at 3:53:47 PM

That or Bulma just dumped Yamcha's corpse in the lake because she's kind of a bitch.

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#20272: Sep 14th 2016 at 4:04:45 PM

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#20273: Sep 14th 2016 at 5:27:34 PM

That or Bulma just dumped Yamcha's corpse in the lake because she's kind of a bitch.

Yamcha had his corpse with him at the time.

I mean, that might be what Toei was going for, but that gets right back to Toei screwing up the death/revival mechanics.

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#20275: Sep 16th 2016 at 5:02:42 PM

[up]

Already posted earlier.

Also, I'm actually listening to english dub Dragonsoul for shits and giggles, so the timing makes me chuckle.

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