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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#2001: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:48:37 PM

^ Just say Tri-beam. It's easier.

#IceBearForPresident
Filby Since: Jan, 2001
#2002: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:49:01 PM

Tien is actually my favorite DB character. But yeah, he's nowhere near top-tier.

edited 3rd Jul '12 10:49:27 PM by Filby

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2003: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:50:41 PM

Not a spoiler:

Everyone who's not a Saiyan is practically worthless by the time you get to the Ginyu Force.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2004: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:51:16 PM

The Kikoho thing doesn't have anything to do with power, though, or it would have done absolutely nothing. But certain Tenshinhan fans love to try and use that and prove that Tenshinhan is better than the Androids/Piccolo.

Tenshinhan is really cool and all, but there's no feckin way he can even keep up with the base Saiyans.

[up] Actually, apart from Piccolo, that's pretty much true for the entire series. Just go back to the beginning and see how well the humans do in fights against the villains.

edited 3rd Jul '12 10:52:58 PM by Saiga

Filby Since: Jan, 2001
#2005: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:56:12 PM

Hell, it's true by the end of Dragon Ball. Only Goku could stand up to Piccolo.

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2006: Jul 3rd 2012 at 10:58:55 PM

Meh. Krillin and Piccolo were marginally useful against the Saibamen and stood up to Nappa for some period of time. They also killed some minor mooks, and Piccolo stalled Frieza.

I guess Piccolo was useful for awhile longer against Gero and first-form Cell.

biznizz Since: Jan, 2001
#2007: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:01:36 PM

Don't some Bulma/Vegeta fans do the same ting where Yamcha is portrayed as an abusive jerk?

....I feel this topic is now just general discussion for Dragon Ball.

...Any word if the break TFS is on now will end sometime before winter?

Sometimes life just sucks. You have to learn to take the good with the bad. Why should you expect anything different in the mediums?
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2008: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:02:33 PM

I think I heard end of July, but I can't be certain.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2009: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:06:14 PM

I was talking about the start of Dragon Ball itself.tongue Goku is the only one to do anything against the Red Ribbon army, he defeats the 3 strongest of Baba Uranai's fighters himself, is the only one who can conceivably beat Tenshinhan at the 22nd Budokai, and the only one who can fight Piccolo Daimao/Junior. Hell, apart from Yajirobe he's the only one that can fight against Daimao's minions as well and Yajirobe was only able to kill a non-combat minion.

[up][up] It's not as common, especially since it's unnecessary to do so with Bulma/Vegeta being canon. I have seen it, but the focus seems to be more about hating Yamcha than the pairing itself.

[up][up][up] What mooks? Apart from the Saibaimen, that's all they kill.

edited 3rd Jul '12 11:08:19 PM by Saiga

HekirekiNoMakai Death Comes To All from /人◕‿‿ʘÉ Since: Apr, 2010
Death Comes To All
#2010: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:11:15 PM

@Saiga: I never said that he was better, I just said he was still slightly useful (albeit unsuccessful) up until that point. But still better than Yamcha.

edited 3rd Jul '12 11:11:28 PM by HekirekiNoMakai

I will peel your skin off and put you in a box full of hungry rats. All because I feel like it.
biznizz Since: Jan, 2001
#2011: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:12:29 PM

If Season 1 was roughly ten episodes, and Season 2 is (counting all three parts of Episode 30 as one) twenty episodes, does this mean that season 3 (with or without filler Garlic Jr) will be forty, going by the doubling pattern here? tongue

Sometimes life just sucks. You have to learn to take the good with the bad. Why should you expect anything different in the mediums?
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
HekirekiNoMakai Death Comes To All from /人◕‿‿ʘÉ Since: Apr, 2010
Death Comes To All
#2013: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:15:00 PM

[up]Or more considering how long the Android and Cell sagas were.

I will peel your skin off and put you in a box full of hungry rats. All because I feel like it.
Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#2014: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:16:47 PM

Speaking of the Garlic Jr. saga, how do you guys think Maron is going to be handled? Will the fact that she's a Bulma clone be touched upon any? I kind of doubt that they could make her any dumber, so will they go the opposite direction and make her a an astute character?

Any speculations?

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2015: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:16:49 PM

Actually, the Android-Cell Saga (in the original manga) was only just as long as the Namek-Ginyu-Frieza arc. Filler may have distorted the ratio in the anime.

Also, there's still Garlic Jr before that. I expect that to be a special like the movies, and not a bunch of episodes.

I think Maron will be a genius. :P

edited 3rd Jul '12 11:17:19 PM by DarkConfidant

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2016: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:18:01 PM

Android-Cell is planned to be the same length as the Freeza Arc. Garlic Jr won't be very long at all given that it's quite short in the anime already.

edited 3rd Jul '12 11:18:11 PM by Saiga

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#2017: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:20:25 PM

Garlic Jr is what... five episodes in the anime? It'll be 2 episodes at most, but probably just a 15-20 minute stand alone special, since it's non-canon and non-serial.

HekirekiNoMakai Death Comes To All from /人◕‿‿ʘÉ Since: Apr, 2010
Death Comes To All
#2018: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:23:28 PM

[up]THAT WAS FIVE EPISODES?! IT FELT LIKE AT LEAST 15. [lol]

I will peel your skin off and put you in a box full of hungry rats. All because I feel like it.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#2021: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:27:01 PM

I liked Maron. And didn't see her as a rehash of anyone. Maybe because I skipped Dragonball.

biznizz Since: Jan, 2001
#2022: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:30:12 PM

I can kinda see it now:

Garlic: The Black Water Mist will turn everyone on Earth into my sla....

Krillin: Hey wait a minute! Just who the hell is this guy?

Gohan: Krillin, don't you remember that he kidnapped me for my Dragon Ball, wished for immortality, and trapped himself in the Dead Zone? It was the first time Dad & Mr. Piccolo worked together! Don't you remember, you were there!

-Clips of Dead Zone Abridged-

Krillin: Gohan, I think you've been hanging around Maron a bit too long...

[up]Maron's a clone of Bulma, even counting Toriyama's design where people look alike, they look like long lost sisters (hey another potential joke!)

edited 3rd Jul '12 11:33:38 PM by biznizz

Sometimes life just sucks. You have to learn to take the good with the bad. Why should you expect anything different in the mediums?
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2023: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:31:05 PM

How could you not? Her appearance is basically "Bulma but with more curves"

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#2024: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:32:52 PM

Sorry, Saiga, I don't just look at appearance.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2025: Jul 3rd 2012 at 11:36:37 PM

Implying she has a personality.tongue

And we're talking about design, where it's pretty damn obvious that they just recycled Bulma's design and made it more fanservice-y because that's all she's meant for.


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