It's a ki technique that gives you another sense...you can feel how alive someone is.
edited 10th Jun '16 7:28:01 AM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I see. I don't remember that, but I believe it. Still, it wasn't as refined it seems. By then he still relied on his eyes during a fight and was surprised Mr. Popo didn't have to. Also, during the time of Raditz at last Kuririn wasn't able to use energy sensing to know who is stronger than who (he needed Bulma with a scouter to do that between him and Kame).
During a year long timeskip in which he trained with God is not "out of his ass". That is kinda why the series even have timeskips, to allow the characters to become stronger without being too forced. Goku couldn't even fly during the last Piccolo arc and wasn't very comfortable doing it for a long period of time by the point Raditz arrived. Still didn't feel off seeing him flying all around against Vegeta because we knew he was training on the meantime.
It wouldn't really be forced, it'd just be padding to show every detail of the training.
Just showing the bare essentials of what happens during is all that is necessary.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Yes. The humans learned to sense ki from their year of training at God's Lookout. Goku learned it from having his powers upgraded by the divine water. Vegeta learned it from suddenly declaring he knows how to do it and reality complying with his decision - despite the fact that the closest thing to formal instruction in the skill he's ever received is hearing the earthlings were doing it so, of course, the mighty Vegeta can too.
Things coming ridiculously easy to Saiyans is a racial trait, not something exclusive to Goku. Despite the skill being flat-out unheard of in the PTO, Vegeta got it as simply as slapping his forehead and going, "Well OF COURSE that's a thing and now I have it too." And then no one else in Frieza's empire would ever repeat the feat.
Not even Frieza, who remained incapable of ki-sensing to the moment of his death. Not sure if he even learned it in ROF.
edited 10th Jun '16 7:45:29 AM by TobiasDrake
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What did Tien effortlessly reproduce other than the Kamehameha?
Because I don't think the Kamehameha counts. Everyone effortlessly reproduces the Kamehameha. People shooting Kamehamehas back at Goku is a fairly common occurrence.
edited 10th Jun '16 7:48:23 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Yeah, I misremembered on Piccolo and tried to edit that out. <.<;; I thought he threw one at Kame-sennin during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, but that was Tien in the 22nd.
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Ten is the one everyone copied from...flying and solar flare. He's not a copying anything.
edited 10th Jun '16 7:51:33 AM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.It's kinda funny how the signature technique of the Tsuru school became such a ubiquitous skill for all the characters.
Meanwhile, the aliens are staring at Earth and going, "Oh my Kaioshin, you guys consider flying to be a technique, that is adorable."
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Tenshinhan copied the Mafuuba after only seeing it once.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!How exactly did Piccolo Jr. learn the Mafuba? I forgot.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Oh, that's right. Yep, Tien has it too.
Piccolo didn't learn the Mafuba, he learned a special Mafuba reversal technique. We never learn how. He probably just studied up on it in the three years between his death and the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.
After being sealed by the Mafuba once, surviving an attempt at doing it again purely by luck, and then being killed by Goku, Piccolo finally got the message that he's not invincible and started working really hard to not let defeat happen again. Part of that means getting stronger, the other part means learning how to evade the Mafuba.
edited 10th Jun '16 9:28:00 AM by TobiasDrake
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That was so sad. How cool would it have been if Tenshinhan was the one to defeat Piccolo? The humans never get to be cool.
(also, a pity they never tried the Mafuba again. Not even against Buu).
Anyway, I vaguely remember it being explicitly said that Tien is good at copying stuff. It is part of his super third eye vision. It just so happen that ability is not actually that useful after all.
Ten winning there would be anticlimactic and terrible. It's not worth it to put a win on the human's side of a non-existence tally board.
Incorrect, Ten comments on Piccolo Daimao's ki being incredible.
Earlier, Goku is able to sense the presences of people in the village Oolong is terrorizing. This is probably through sensing ki, but he's unfamiliar with the concept at this point.
Now you're just being ludicrous. Videl learns to sense ki without being trained, it really IS easy to do and there's nothing in the series to contradict the idea. To suggest that Vegeta was just bullshitting because Dodoria didn't do it is a petty argument.
So yeah we've seen that people consistently learn how to sense ki with great ease, or have the ability without making a fuss of it. It's not exclusive to Vegeta or some concession made to him.
The rest of the PTO not sensing ki? They originally didn't see it as possible, and then they didn't try. They're constantly portrayed as being even more stubborn than Vegeta is: when he saw that the scouters couldn't be relied on, it wasn't a big deal to him. Freeza and co continued to be dependent on them. He was simply more open-minded than they were, which is exactly what he's explaining to Dodoria.
And training to do it. People like to leave out that second part, it's pretty damn important.
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No, that's an incorrect assumption. Tenshinhan actually exclaims he can reproduce the Kamehameha on seeing it once because the Kamehameha is a simple technique.
Pffffft. The whole "low class" thing was dropped after that fight, and mostly came of Vegeta's trash talk. It really does not mesh with the series as a whole, even to the point where Vegeta retracts his statement and reveals that Goku is actually more talented than he is.
Earth actually did stunt Goku's growth - even Raditz, a weakling of a Saiyan, was far stronger than him. To prepare to fight Vegeta, he needed to train in an environment that simulated the Saiyan's own homeworld. Kaio even mentions that Saiyans are stronger due to being raised in a higher gravity than Earth's.
I know the whole "hardworking under dog vs naturally gifted genius" concept is such a popular hook in stories, but Dragon Ball does little more than pay lip service to the idea and then switch it up immediately afterward.
Because while that's a hugely popular Western aesop, Japanese works love their geniuses.
edited 10th Jun '16 7:34:59 PM by Saiga
Goku being more talented than Vegeta does not contradict the notion that Vegeta's super-special genes made him naturally stronger than Goku when they met. Vegeta's special the way Frieza is: naturally graced with immense power by virtue of birth. Goku isn't.
Yeah, but I can't imagine that being particularly relevant when Planet Vegeta is space dust for Goku's entire life. Nappa and Raditz may have benefitted from Planet Vegeta's enhanced gravity, but Goku was sent to Earth just before the planet was destroyed. He's not getting any more mileage out of Planet Vegeta's enhanced gravity than he did otherwise.
Vegeta also didn't get much mileage out of it, seeing as he's only five years older than Goku. As a veteran of the Saiyan-Tuffle War, 10x gravity certainly explains Nappa's strength. We don't know how old Raditz is so it could be the answer there as well. But, like all attempts at downplaying Vegeta's natural prowess, it just doesn't cut it as an answer. He's too young.
No, the West loves it too. We just call it the Chosen One instead of the genius prodigy. Both cultures are romantically infatuated with the Divine Right concept.
edited 11th Jun '16 7:58:08 AM by TobiasDrake
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That's him making up a new attack....ki attack, that's not really the same thing as learning a new sense.
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