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Maybe Chilled is what a non-mutated member of Frieza's race would be. It's possible that Frieza's power and transformations are part of the mutation?
Alternate universe introduced in Dragon Ball Super.
edited 16th Mar '16 8:46:26 AM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.I like the idea that Episode of Bardock is Towa and Mira messing with Bardock's head.
Frankly, Dragon Ball Online and Xenoverse give an out for every inconsistency between the movies, anime filler, GT and whatever else you want to think of, because it could just be the guys messing with history screwing everything up for a week.
Towa can explicitly power up Gohan to Super Saiyan 2, so even inconsistency of power levels can be explained that way.
edited 16th Mar '16 8:52:32 AM by unnoun
Having him get punched out by Broli, was a smarter idea.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.That would raise more questions than it would solve. Chilled resembles First Form Frieza, but Final Form is his natural state. Another member of Frieza's species without the ability to transform should resemble his Final Form, not his First Form. This was one of many mistakes Xenoverse made.
If Episode of Bardock cared at all about being accurate to the established mechanics of Frieza, then Bardock killed Chilled before he had a chance to transform and show his true power.
Similarly, there is reason to believe that Cold had the ability to transform up to Third and Final Form and just never had the chance to - though, unlike how this point is often used, there is NO reason to believe this implies that he was actually more powerful than Frieza. If anything, that he's comfortable walking around in Second Form would suggest he has less power to suppress, not more.
During Goku's fight with Frost, this actually comes up. Goku knows that Frost is sandbagging because he's in his First Form. Frost cops to it and transforms to Third Form, but Goku still isn't fooled because he knows how Frieza's transformation mechanics work. Called out on his gambit, Frost relents and goes to Final Form, unveiling his real strength.
edited 16th Mar '16 9:41:23 AM by TobiasDrake
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Anyway, I can kinda see the point about not giving Frieza's clan a name. I guess it's just a minor gripe with me. We're never gonna see other members beyond those directly related to Frieza (or alternate counterparts of him) so I suppose it makes sense to not bother with naming them unless they become an issue at some point.
It still irks me. It's not that hard to name something. Plus, I never realized you could have world building just for World buildings sake. I never even considered it could be a bad thing. I mean, how is expanding your universe not good. Bothering to name the race of the most iconic villain of the series (he was brought back years after his death in a movie, so yeah. That's what he is) doesn't seem like it'd be too much of an issue.
One Strip! One Strip!I mean, Cold was said to be around Frieza's level, while still being slightly weaker.
So it's possible that he couldn't transform. Because the difference between Frieza's second form and Final Form is fairly significant? And people thought that Cold was another Frieza, so. Like.
Maybe Frieza's Final Form/Original Form/natural state looking the way it does is also a mutation?
And his suppression forms end up making him look like "normal" members of his species because the information for those appearances is still there in his DNA?
Although.
We don't see Frieza transform downwards. Ever. It's always from First to second to third to fourth, or from First to fourth. Presumably he can, but. We never see it.
But I think it's worth noting that the transformations from first to second to third are very different graphically from the transformation to fourth.
First to second, he visibly gets bigger, second to third his head visibly elongates.
Third to Fourth? It's like he just sorta. Shatters. And his Final Form emerges from inside the shards.
edited 16th Mar '16 10:20:48 AM by unnoun
We still don't see it though! Is my point!
And I think that's weird! Because I kinda wanna see it!
Sorry for not being more clear though.
Resurrection F doesn't show him transform from First to Final either. It sorta shows him powering up until he's surrounded by light and then presumably he transforms while we can't look at him.
I thought that was kinda lame too. I like the visuals for Frieza's transformations. The way he stretches and shifts and stuff is. Gross but cool?
I mean, the Frieza's clan people in Xenoverse can't transform. Which, if we take that at face value. Makes it seem like transformation is a mutation exclusive to Frieza himself.
And, yes, Frost can do it, but Frost is from another universe, and while the same mutation arising independently is extremely unlikely, it is also true that Universe 6 and Universe 7 are specifically said to be the most similar to each other and to parallel each other in certain ways?
edited 16th Mar '16 10:27:30 AM by unnoun
So, like.
Is Frieza's Final Form just sorta. Inside. His Third form all along?
Like, I don't think it's inside his First Form because (and I could be wrong, I haven't seen a height chart) I'm pretty sure his Final Form is (slightly) bigger than his First Form?
Because, seriously, the way the transformation is animated and drawn is really. Interesting. And unique.
In the transformation from First to Second, his horns actually change shape, his arms and legs and torso actually bulge and grow in size.
Transformation from Second to Third, again, we see the shape of his head change, we see spikes grow from his back, we see his shoulder pads lift and separate.
And the transformation from Third to Fourth is just. Really really interesting in light of that. Because I can't quite explain it. He powers up until he starts to glow. It's like his body is a shell, or becomes a shell, and starts to crack and fracture. And then, when the pieces break and fall off, his Final Form is inside of them as they fall away and disintegrate.
It's a really cool effect.
edited 16th Mar '16 10:37:19 AM by unnoun
Because world-building can limit story potential. What you flesh out today might be contradicted by what you want to write tomorrow.
Remember that time Planet Vegeta was destroyed by a meteor? And then later Toriyama wanted to introduce a villain who was responsible for the Saiyan extinction and had to write around the fact that he had already established the planet was destroyed by a meteor? Had Toriyama just said the Saiyans were near-extinction, there wouldn't have been an issue, but he went the extra mile and explained that a meteor killed their planet.
Toei even fleshed this out with some filler world-building. It wasn't just a meteor. It was a meteor summoned by the God of the Saiyans, who had become distressed by their cruelty and malice. Their God summoned the meteor and destroyed them all to punish them for their wickedness.
And then none of that was true because Frieza did it. The existing world-building contradicted the plot, and the plot was forced to work around it. Toriyama did a fantastic job writing around the world-building, while Toei just went "F*ck it" and never even tried.
Toriyama also seems to be trying to distance the Saiyans from their reputation as mindless berserkers of death and violence, but the fanbase is struggling with that because of all the world-building that's been put into place in things like the Bardock special that encourage the idea that Saiyans are Always Chaotic Evil. The world-building has given fans the impression that Vegeta is basically the standard for Saiyans, when the plot actually notes him as being exceptionally cruel for a Saiyan.
Frost only showed us three forms. That doesn't mean he doesn't have Second Form. Goku transforms to Super Saiyan 3 sometimes without stopping at 1 or 2.
edited 16th Mar '16 10:57:10 AM by TobiasDrake
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I mean, in Xenoverse they aren't described as Frieza's race or species, but as his clan. As in, like, his family.
If Cold and his kids are mutants, then their descendents would presumably inherit those traits, but not every member of the original species of Cold's parent/parents.
And Chilled wasn't that strong.
edited 16th Mar '16 8:46:45 AM by unnoun