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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#18751: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:10:15 PM

He gets stronger by drinking people, but even setting that aside it's a pretty potent weapon. Anyone but Piccolo would have been crippled by that at least until they ate a senzu.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18752: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:13:33 PM

I'm not sure even a Senzu would have helped. Piccolo's arm seemed dead.

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#18753: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:16:31 PM

Cell is not Majin Buu. We are never given any indication that he can absorb anyone who isn't 17 and 18.

He tried on Piccolo and 16, though, and he seems pretty well aware of his own capabilities.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18754: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:20:54 PM

He tried to drink 16. Which is weird, because as abridged points out, he is android 16 and made out of pure metal. Cell should have known that wouldn't have done anything.

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#18755: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:24:54 PM

He tried to drink Piccolo too. Neither instance was an absorption like he does to 17 and 18.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18756: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:26:57 PM

Getting a bit into semantics there. Yeah, they aren't exactly the same but he's doing it for basically the same reason. Though what he did to all those people and tried to do to Piccolo was literally eating them. Maybe calling it that works better.

edited 5th Mar '16 12:36:52 PM by LSBK

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#18757: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:27:00 PM

[up][up]Well, to be fair, there was no Android 16 in his timeline.

[up]Ohh, okay, I see what you mean. I never distinguished those two as separate things for Cell, personally.

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#18758: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:35:32 PM

Absorbing =/= Drinking

Drinking Piccoro, is like doing what he did to every single other human.

Android 16 mislead him by his presence near 17 and 18, he believed 16 was also human machine.

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#18759: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:24:05 PM

He tried to drink 16. Which is weird, because as abridged points out, he is android 16 and made out of pure metal. Cell should have known that wouldn't have done anything.

Why he should have known that? All the "androids" he is familiar with are actually cyborgs. Drinking probably would have worked with 18 and 16, but that would be detrimental to Cell's plan, as he needed to absorb them.

Also, how can you guys not distinguish between "drinking" and "absorbing". I mean, these are not the technical terms, but the mechanics are blatantly different in the story. There is no way to mistake them.

edited 5th Mar '16 2:25:21 PM by Heatth

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#18760: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:26:18 PM

I dunno. The way I saw it, they still ended up as a part of Cell anyway.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18761: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:31:04 PM

True the mechnics are different but the end results are basically the. With the exception of 17 and 18 transforming him, obviously.

I also don't think anyone actually mistook one for the other, Tobias was just being pedantic with the terminology.

edited 5th Mar '16 2:32:40 PM by LSBK

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#18762: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:46:22 PM

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#18763: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:51:36 PM

Maybe the reason Cell did the absorbing thing is because he couldn't drink 17 and 18's mechanical parts through such a small tube. Other than that they're basically the same.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18764: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:53:32 PM

Pretty sure that is the reason. Not sure if that's official or not (Saiga...) but it's a popular fan theory. Although, now according to Toriyama, 17 and 18 don't have any mechanical parts (besides a bomb in their chest, I guess), they run on nano-technology or something.

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#18766: Mar 5th 2016 at 3:10:53 PM

17 and 18 are mostly bio-mechanical. At least, that's what the version of the manga I was just reading said. For all I know, it could have been translated wrong or something.

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#18767: Mar 5th 2016 at 4:56:33 PM

True the mechnics are different but the end results are basically the. With the exception of 17 and 18 transforming him, obviously.

Yeah, with the exception of this huge thing that makes all the difference.

Absorbing the androids is explicitly a completely different thing than just drinking people. Like, it is very clear that even if Cell actually drunk Piccolo dry he wouldn't have become as powerful as semi-perfect Cell, even though Piccolo and 17 were equivalent in power. If that wasn't the case Cell wouldn't have just let Piccolo drawn.

The transformation is a major point. It is silly to just brush it aside.

It is not absolutely confirmed, but given what we know, I think "drinking" results in Cell just stealing (part?) of the ki/power/whatever. The absorption actually combines his physiology to the androids, which causes the transformation+huge augment in power.

edited 5th Mar '16 4:58:35 PM by Heatth

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18768: Mar 5th 2016 at 4:59:41 PM

[up]Yes, obviously, which is why I put obvious there. The point being made is, they are both ways to incorporate someone into his body and grow stronger. No has disputed that the mechanics are different or confused the two.

This started because someone went Cell absorbed people and Tobias (or maybe someone else went) "No he only absorbed 17 and 18". Even you said these aren't official terms. If someone wants to call him "drinking" people "absorbing" them who cares as long as there is no confusion?

edited 5th Mar '16 5:15:20 PM by LSBK

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#18769: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:02:34 PM

[up][up]I want to know why that is, though. Are there built in limitations? Why can't Imperfect Cell get as strong as Semi-Perfect Cell by absorbing, and then absorb 17 and become an even stronger Semi-Perfect Cell?

I'm probably overthinking things, though.

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#18770: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:18:51 PM

[up]That is a good question, that was not answered.

[up][up]No, it wasn't clear, as one of the answered showed a video from GT in which Cell tries to absorb Goku, as if he was an android. Furthermore, the comment about absorbing Kuririn becoming weaker only make sense if it is his "absorb and transform" method, as "drinking" obviously doesn't make him weaker if he drinks weak people (he basically only drank weak people).

So, no, drawing the line on the distinction is not pedantic.

edited 5th Mar '16 5:20:33 PM by Heatth

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#18771: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:19:27 PM

Maybe there were some limits in his genetics or something?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18772: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:20:57 PM

[up][up]Krillin? The comment I looked at spoke of why he didn't try to do it to anyone besides Piccolo. Maybe I overlooked something.

Still pedantry, though.

edited 5th Mar '16 5:21:24 PM by LSBK

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#18773: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:21:39 PM

[up][up]If I had to make up an answer I would use that, yeah. But "his tail doesn't actually extendnote " and "Sayan pride" are both good enough too.

[up]Not the original comment. One of the answers. The last post last page, to be precise. And, no, it is not pedantry if there is confusion.

edited 5th Mar '16 5:22:28 PM by Heatth

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18774: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:22:27 PM

[up]The Krillin comment was from someone making a joke. It's not what started this. And Tobias Drake was being pedantic because he know what the commentator meant and still felt the need to comment on it.

But, it's not a big deal either way.

edited 5th Mar '16 5:24:23 PM by LSBK

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#18775: Mar 5th 2016 at 5:24:19 PM

[up]How would I know that? It is not like I remember every single silly anime filler. Still denotes a confusion about the mechanics of his powers which, again, makes not pedantry to differentiate them.

How the fuck do you know what Tobias is thinking?

edited 5th Mar '16 5:25:11 PM by Heatth


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