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#18551: Feb 24th 2016 at 7:45:29 AM

Jeez. Where's my presidential candidate who wants to bring patents and copywriting into the 21st century?

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#18552: Feb 24th 2016 at 7:47:28 AM

It has nothing to do with American copyright law and everything to do with YouTube's shitty system. Videos aren't being taken down because they violate copyright, they're taken down because YouTube's claim/strike system is horrifically broken to the point that many companies are actually making a profit by issuing false claims. Doug Walker explains the whole thing here:

edited 24th Feb '16 7:48:16 AM by TobiasDrake

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#18553: Feb 24th 2016 at 7:54:30 AM

I've seen them get videos taken down, but is the channel usually taken down? That seems a bit excessive.

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#18554: Feb 24th 2016 at 7:55:10 AM

The channel automatically gets taken down if three copyright strikes are issued through the automatic copyright system. There isn't a physical person involved in any of this. It's completely automated.

The IP-holder has the power to issue copyright claims and strikes that take up to two months for content creators to challenge, during which the IP-holder can take all monetary proceeds from the video. There is no penalty for false claiming, so some companies issue claims wherever they can just for the sake of raking in the money from those videos for the two months that it takes to resolve the claim.

Some companies even contract other companies to issue false claims on their behalf. Claims can be upgraded to strikes during the challenging process at the whim of the IP-holder regardless of legal merit and on the third strike, BAM, channel's gone.

This utterly corrupt and broken system is why we see not only parody videos and reviews receive copyright strikes, but also things like a home video of a baby dancing to a Prince song and an episode of Cinema Snob's show Midnight Screenings, which features nothing but the Cinema Snob and a few friends sitting in a car talking about the movie they just saw, with no footage from the actual film.

I repeat, this has nothing to do with copyright law and everything to do with You Tube's terrible policies. Companies are openly and flagrantly violating Fair Use because You Tube has no repurcussions for false claim flagging but rewards them monetarily every time they flag a major video, so why wouldn't they?

edited 24th Feb '16 8:03:37 AM by TobiasDrake

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#18555: Feb 24th 2016 at 8:02:24 AM

What about that video Suede put up about how copyright law doesn't work the way people think it does?

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#18556: Feb 24th 2016 at 8:09:28 AM

[up] Link please?

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#18557: Feb 24th 2016 at 8:12:38 AM

https://youtu.be/8JLbKL6i9eM

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#18558: Feb 24th 2016 at 10:17:42 AM

https://twitter.com/Lanipator/status/702349414690467840

Lani says that the strike wasn't even for DBZ Abridged, but for D Bcember.

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#18559: Feb 24th 2016 at 10:21:16 AM

At least their channel is back. This could have been worse even if it was still incredibly stupid.

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#18560: Feb 25th 2016 at 5:47:08 PM

Unfortunately, there are still some DBZA episodes that are down. Including Episode 52. Which is really annoying, considering it only just got onto youtube a few days before.

I mean, you can always use their website, but the very fact that it's gone so soon is what's annoying me.

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#18561: Feb 25th 2016 at 5:53:07 PM

Here are their thoughts on the issue:

They really are mature and professional with all this, much more so than I think most people would be.

edited 25th Feb '16 5:56:21 PM by LSBK

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#18562: Feb 25th 2016 at 9:23:24 PM

I think they're mistaken, though.

Like, this isn't a problem with copyright laws, this is a problem with youtube.

The laws are fine, it's just the youtube system that's broken and incredibly abusable.

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#18566: Feb 26th 2016 at 6:03:16 AM

[up][up]Scumbag behavior right there.

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#18567: Feb 26th 2016 at 7:18:10 AM

Not good at reading news-speak, what's so terrible about a company asking its employee's for voluntary donations? Aside from Disney already having more money than God, I mean.

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#18568: Feb 26th 2016 at 7:49:44 AM

[up] Two things, as noted in the comments:

1) For a massive international company like Disney, the fact that it feels the need to ask for donations from its lower-end employees comes off as incredibly scummy.

2) The "voluntary" part is mandatory by law, and choosing to opt out effectively plants a target on your back internally.

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#18569: Feb 26th 2016 at 7:54:50 AM

Disney should finance their business operations with business funds. Not ask their much less wealthy employees to subsidize the cost for them.

They're asking for donations of lower-level employees to fund campaigns that would only benefit the upper management. That's super scummy.

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#18570: Feb 26th 2016 at 9:59:40 AM

I first thought #WTFU stands for "What The Fuck, You Tube?"

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#18571: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:09:46 AM

It still kind of does.

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#18572: Feb 26th 2016 at 10:47:46 AM

[up] Doug Walker really deserves some praise for coming up with such a great hashtag. It conveys several different-but-related sentiments while still being wonderfully simple.

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#18573: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:15:39 AM

If you don't want to donate to them, they can't make you. No matter how much they may want to.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:15:51 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18574: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:17:04 AM

But they can make your work life a living hell or just straight up fire you and come up with some stupid reason why. Or likely not have to give a reason at all.

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#18575: Feb 26th 2016 at 11:19:13 AM

Yeah. It's the kind of thing that's not really kosher for an employer to bring up to an employee on account of the context of the employer-employee relationship.

Fear of repercussion is a big deal in office environments.

edited 26th Feb '16 11:22:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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