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#18476: Feb 20th 2016 at 3:39:50 PM

Yes. It's not a commentary on the Kintoun's abilities so much as on how really f*cking high the Lookout is.

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#18477: Feb 20th 2016 at 3:42:54 PM

Because they're invincible and they need something to fill their time after hilariously curb stomping any opposition.

And how is "flying impossibly high in empty sky" supposed to fill their time? It sounds kinda boring, really. And 17 doesn't even like flying, even when there is an actual discernible landscape that changes as you go by.

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#18478: Feb 20th 2016 at 4:00:02 PM

Also, the world is a big place. It's like looking for a needle in haystack, except considerably more boring and maybe you're not even certain the needle exists.

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#18479: Feb 20th 2016 at 4:23:27 PM

You know, the one time Bulma just flies there, it's after Piccolo has merged with Kami. Maybe the lack of a proper guardian rendered those defences null and void.

Or maybe the plane Bulma was using is just that good for flying that high. I mean, she built the impossible Time Machine after all. I wouldn't put anything past her.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18480: Feb 20th 2016 at 7:14:28 PM

Episode 38 review.

edited 20th Feb '16 7:18:06 PM by unnoun

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#18481: Feb 20th 2016 at 7:49:15 PM

“It’s just, every time you talked, all I heard was ‘Kill me, kill me, kill me.’ Think it’s gone now though.”

Later: “Sorry Doc, just following orders.”

That was real good.

edited 20th Feb '16 7:49:39 PM by Moth13

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#18482: Feb 20th 2016 at 8:26:01 PM

I loved that Brick Joke.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#18483: Feb 20th 2016 at 9:20:56 PM

God died with Piccolo and the Cell Saga is the first time Gohan's ever visited the Lookout.

I thought about that but at the beginning of the Namek Saga Popo took the initative to go down to the Hospital to show Bulma how to operate that ship.

I know the actual reason is Toriyama probably didn't conceptualize the Chamber at the time. tongue

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#18484: Feb 20th 2016 at 9:25:34 PM

The HTC appeared all the way back in Dragon Ball.

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#18485: Feb 20th 2016 at 9:35:38 PM

You're certain? I was under the impression that all the DB-related material in the Android arc was retcons

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#18486: Feb 20th 2016 at 9:47:55 PM

Not entirely certain, since I haven't seen much of Dragon Ball, but I did hear people talk about it existing back then, and DBZA brought up the fact that Goku went into the HTC when he was a kid.

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#18487: Feb 20th 2016 at 9:48:42 PM

The HTC never appeared in Dragon Ball. When it was introduced in the Cell Saga, Goku simply mentions that he training in it during the time between the Piccolo Daimaou Saga and the 23rd Budoukai.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#18488: Feb 20th 2016 at 9:50:39 PM

[up][up], [up] All of Goku's training with Popo happens exclusively on the watch tower itself. IIRC, his training with Kami all happens off-screen during the timeskip before the 23rd tournament.

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#18489: Feb 20th 2016 at 11:42:22 PM

Goku training in the HTC as a kid was a retcon.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#18490: Feb 21st 2016 at 12:41:22 PM

Oh, okay.

Also, why was Gohan so hesitant for Goku to teach him how to dodge?

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#18491: Feb 21st 2016 at 12:46:24 PM

Pavlovian response, he knew he was just gonna freeze up.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#18492: Feb 21st 2016 at 1:02:55 PM

Ah, okay.

Thanks.

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#18493: Feb 21st 2016 at 4:04:45 PM

It's a shame that they're not doing Super. This scene would've been a "dodge" goldmine.

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#18494: Feb 21st 2016 at 5:11:41 PM

Not to mention the newest episode has this.

JRads47 Since: Nov, 2014
#18495: Feb 21st 2016 at 5:16:54 PM

[up]Beard+Mustache>Mustache

I'm getting a very Hot Ryu-esque vibe from those two.

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#18496: Feb 21st 2016 at 5:28:30 PM

I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEIR MUSTACHE LOOP IS BROKEN.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#18497: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:09:20 AM

... oh my god that's real. Having seen images of it (glares at Lionheart), I assumed it was a photoshop like Pirate Goku or Ninja Goku.

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#18498: Feb 22nd 2016 at 9:06:18 AM

It looked like a photoshop to me as well at first, but it IS real.

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#18499: Feb 22nd 2016 at 10:50:57 AM

Or maybe the plane Bulma was using is just that good for flying that high. I mean, she built the impossible Time Machine after all. I wouldn't put anything past her.

That's my thought on the matter too. I'm totally willing to excuse Bulma flying a plane to the Lookout on grounds that it's f*cking Bulma. If anyone can build a plane that can beat the Lookout's defenses, it's her.

There is no such thing as an absolute. Invulnerable, impossible, unbreakable, etc. are relative terms. Something is only unbreakable because no known means exist by which to break it. When an unstoppable force meets an unbreakable wall, the one that gives is whichever is less unstoppable or unbreakable.

Nowhere is this more evident than Dragon Ball, in which overcoming limitations is a major theme. To Krillin, Goku is omnipotent. Impossibly powerful, insurmountable. A level of strength and ability unachievable by mortal man. But to Whis, Goku is merely off to a decent start. Krillin may not be able to perceive or fully understand the difference in power between Goku and Whis, both of whom have long since surpassed the label of "all-powerful", but that distinction exists nonetheless.

Planes can't reach the Lookout, but Bulma's plane can because Bulma's plane > Lookout defenses.

edited 22nd Feb '16 10:58:23 AM by TobiasDrake

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#18500: Feb 22nd 2016 at 11:16:31 AM

I just assumed that Bulma had permission to pass through. What I'm more concerned about is that teenage Goku got exhausted constantly in the thin air of the Lookout and Bulma was walking around with an infant up there.


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