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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#1827: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:32:57 PM

Ah, Guru. Didn't see that one, yet this is totally his character to do that... XD

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1828: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:36:25 PM

"Global warming?! NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIII-"

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#1829: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:44:11 PM

IIRC, in the original series Freeza actually kills Goku with that "blow him into the lava-filled exploding planet" attack, but it coincidentally happens seconds before the wish to bring back everyone killed by Freeza and his minions. Thus Goku comes back, even stronger than he was when he first turned to SSJ.

Am I remembering right?

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#1830: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:46:13 PM

I don't know. I remember a filler episode where it looks like Goku's dead, and Gohan has to fend off attacks from Frieza for a while, but I don't know if his return was explained that way.

I do distinctly remember a "soup" comment, though.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#1831: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:50:27 PM

I remember that. Frieza kills Goku, Gohan trades a few blows with Frieza before getting smacked around, then the wish and Goku's back.

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MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#1832: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:51:29 PM

[up]Its admittedly been years since I've watched more than a few clips of original DBZ, but I'm pretty sure all that happened just before the Dragon brought everyone back. I could be wrong, though.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#1833: Jun 20th 2012 at 12:56:12 PM

[up]You're correct, I remember it happening that way as well.

Medigo2 Since: Dec, 1969
#1834: Jun 20th 2012 at 1:11:08 PM

Goku was already brought back to life once before by the earth dragon, so not thats not what happened

Frieza just slammed Goku down into the ground

in the anime he event went as far as to drive him into lava, which allowed the anime to do some filler where Gohan went back to fight with Frieza a little (and somehow not dying instantly)

Medigo2 Since: Dec, 1969
#1835: Jun 20th 2012 at 1:12:37 PM

also technically Frieza was never stronger than SSJ Goku they were trading blows for a long time yes, but Frieza ran out of stamina/power first and couldnt keep up after a while anymore

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#1836: Jun 20th 2012 at 1:53:52 PM

Thanks for the clarification. Seems I misremember what I saw eight or so years ago. Who woulda guessed?

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#1837: Jun 20th 2012 at 2:11:28 PM

Goku couldn't have died and then been brought back. Because he already died and was brought back once and at this point the Earth Dragon can only revive a person once.

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#1838: Jun 20th 2012 at 2:17:37 PM

Don't know whether it was due to filler or the dub but I distincly remember Goku dying.

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Filby Since: Jan, 2001
#1839: Jun 20th 2012 at 2:37:43 PM

[up]I've only watched it with subs and I have no recollection of that.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#1840: Jun 20th 2012 at 2:56:50 PM

The Namekian Dragon could bring back people an infinite number of times so Goku was technically a part of that group. Dende used the Namekian dragon to wish everyone back to life, not Shenlong.

edited 20th Jun '12 2:57:23 PM by Lionheart0

BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1841: Jun 20th 2012 at 3:11:02 PM

The Namekian dragon could only bring one person back at a time.

edited 20th Jun '12 3:11:20 PM by BigMadDraco

NULLcHiLD27 Since: Oct, 2010
#1842: Jun 20th 2012 at 3:11:31 PM

[up][up][up][up]Goku doesn't die during his fight with Frieza.

[up][up]No he didn't he could only bring back people individually, they used the Earth dragon to bring everyone back and the Namekian dragon to teleport them to Earth.

edited 20th Jun '12 3:11:44 PM by NULLcHiLD27

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#1843: Jun 20th 2012 at 3:12:17 PM

Dende and Porunga could only be brought back by a Shenlong wish to revive everyone.

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#1844: Jun 20th 2012 at 3:20:56 PM

Yeah. Senlong brought everyone back, and Porunga whisked everyone away. The idea of Goku dying and then being revived by the mass life-restore is demonstrably false.

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nairoxev Since: Nov, 2011
#1845: Jun 20th 2012 at 3:25:58 PM

Goku dies in the Cell saga.

:)

Solid episode 30 so far, even though Freeza is already dead and guru already confessed. So there is not a lot of things left to do in part 3. Hmmmn.

And Dende got a CMOA. Sweet stuff.

edited 20th Jun '12 3:31:07 PM by nairoxev

MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#1846: Jun 20th 2012 at 3:57:31 PM

[up] Freeza isn't dead, if they're going by canon. His species can survive horrifically crippling injuries, though they don't seem to have any particular regeneration abilities; he gets off one last blast at Goku, whho deflects it back at him, blasting him into a crater. After Namek's explosion, his still-living (barely) body is picked up by his father's warship, where he's turned into a cyborg. They then head to Earth for revenge, where Freeza is finally killed off for good by Trunks. Still, I'm expecting part three to be shorter than average, just like part three of the first season's finale was.

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#1847: Jun 20th 2012 at 4:31:45 PM

Yeah, Trunks finally gets him. Quite decisively, too. Chopped into a few dozen pieces, which are all then incinerated.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1848: Jun 20th 2012 at 5:21:08 PM

Is there anywhere I could go for a list of all the wishes in the unabridged series?

edited 20th Jun '12 5:21:19 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1849: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:23:26 PM

@Wander Link! It's not very reliable though. We'll have our own wiki at Kanzenshuu eventually, to combat the general unreliability and shittiness of the "vanilla" wiki.

@Goku being killed by Freeza: Rumour. As if Freeza could kill SS Goku.[lol] That was actually the only worthwhile hit he gets on him in the manga, it's the anime that tries to make it look as though 100% Freeza actually matters.

edited 20th Jun '12 6:24:06 PM by Saiga

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#1850: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:26:13 PM

Panties, the revival of Upa's father, the return of Demon King Piccolo's youth and strength, the revival of those killed by Demon King Piccolo, Goku's revival, Piccolo's revival, transporting Piccolo to Namek, the revival of those killed by Frieza and his minions, the transportation of everyon on Namek to earth except for Goku and Frieza, the resurrection of Tien, Chiaotzu, Yamcha, moving Krillin to Earth's soul-judging department, the revival of Krillin, the transportation of the Namekians to a new home, the resurrection of everyone killed by Cell, the removal of the bomb from 18, the resurrection of everyone killed by Buu, new boots for Vegeta restoring Goku's strength.

I think that's all of it.

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