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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#17776: Feb 1st 2016 at 3:48:48 PM

Goku might have had fun with it.

Piccolo's suffering (along with Vegeta later) is far more soothing to our souls.evil grin

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#17777: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:33:41 PM

Though given that he was already there and knew the genre, I'm surprised Goku didn't just do the supervillain thing himself.

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#17778: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:35:40 PM

Yeah, this comic has two different occasions of "Why didn't Goku do it?"

Or at the very least, he could ask Ten or Krillin or Yamcha to play the bad guy.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17779: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:38:03 PM

Well, Krillin's a cop, and Yamcha's either a famous baseball star or a bodyguard of famous people or the best cook in the world, depending on what Toriyama remembers that week, if he remembers Yamcha at all.

And nobody can find Tien because he's a loner that doesn't like spending time with anyone.

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#17780: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:41:29 PM

If anyone can find Ten, it's "Find anyone's Ki signature in the universe" Goku.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17781: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:42:25 PM

Maybe he doesn't want to find Tien though.

I mean. It'd probably be awkward. He can never read that guy.

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#17782: Feb 1st 2016 at 6:59:02 PM

Weird theory but I get the feeling that Toriyama only temporarily wrote Tenshinhan out of the Buu Saga just so that he could, very briefly, be the Chekhov's Gunman.

edited 1st Feb '16 6:59:22 PM by Lionheart0

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#17783: Feb 1st 2016 at 7:17:00 PM

As someone who never seen DB or DBZ: Krillin couldn't fly before DBZ, right? That was something he learned up on Kami's?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#17784: Feb 1st 2016 at 7:18:32 PM

No, Goku was the last one to learn how to fly and he learned that before Z, in his fight with Piccolo (Jr.).

edited 1st Feb '16 7:19:03 PM by LSBK

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#17785: Feb 1st 2016 at 7:19:39 PM

Yeah, presumably Kami taught everyone to fly except for Tenshinhan and Chaozu, who learned from the Crane School.

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edited 1st Feb '16 7:20:05 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#17787: Feb 1st 2016 at 10:29:41 PM

Krillin's a cop?

I thought the villain was Krillin at first, based on height. I still haven't finished the completed version yet.

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#17789: Feb 1st 2016 at 11:25:22 PM

  • Except for the "stay in the kitchen" moment, best marriage.
  • Why does everyone have that haircut now?
  • Krillin's ringtone is a theme from One Piece...
  • I wonder if he asks himself why he doesn't just blitz them all more often.
  • Seriously though, Krillin should've been stronger than Namek!Frieza by now. But no one trains because it's the Goku & Vegeta show.
  • Really, why involve Roshi?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#17790: Feb 1st 2016 at 11:57:35 PM

One of the things that bugs me about Resurrection F is that everybody, everybody freaks out about Freeza long before they actually find out they have anything to fear from him.

Having them find out almost immediately that Freeza has attained unbelievable power is something I liked about Super's version.

Also, Roshi kicks serious ass in that movie.

edited 1st Feb '16 11:59:00 PM by KnownUnknown

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#17791: Feb 2nd 2016 at 2:13:34 AM

Krllin revealed that he knew how to fly during his fight with Piccolo in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai to save himself from landing out-of-bounds.

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#17792: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:15:47 AM

They knew how to fly, it just used a lot of energy...so they didn't use it until their training from the Saiyan saga gave them all enough energy to fly like it ain't no thang.

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#17793: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:43:12 AM

Seriously though, Krillin should've been stronger than Namek!Frieza by now. But no one trains because it's the Goku & Vegeta show.

Okay honestly, I kinda like the idea of him not being able to get stronger than Frieza. Much as I hate the "ONLY SAIYANS MATTER" rule, I like the internal consistency and avoidance of power creep that would keep Krillin from just being able to train to Freiza's level. Frieza was the dominent force in the galaxy for longer than Vegeta's life. It took Piccolo doing a forbidden fusion with the strongest living Namek to match his second form, and Goku unlocking an ancient super mode (on top of Saiyan's other wtfbrokenhax abilities) to actually beat him. The idea of a mere Earthling getting stronger than Freiza just through training does bother me.

Once they establish "Freiza has been the most powerful being for at least a lifetime" making every single other character able to catch up just kinda... waters down that praise.

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#17794: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:48:55 AM

Freeza was just using his default power without bothering to train. Trained Freeza is leaps and bounds ahead of everything but Beerus and Beerus-related stuff.

Old master Krillin, after spending his life training alongside those power levels, I could see him getting to that point.

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#17795: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:24:31 AM

He would need to have his potential unleashed, unlocked, unchained, and unwrapped, in that order, to get to that point.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#17796: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:27:59 AM

And I see no reason to think Krillin would be stronger than Frieza even if he did train. He hit his peak early on and got lucky with that.

Edit: Oh, and now people don't train because it's the Goku and Vegeta show? I thought not training and wanting to do other things was supposed to be a sign of being better than Goku and Vegeta and any mention otherwise was heresy?

Yes, a bit hyperbolic, but that is the general sentiment I get from this thread.

edited 2nd Feb '16 6:34:58 AM by LSBK

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#17797: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:31:47 AM

Is there anything that suggests he even surpassed Ginyu?

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#17798: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:46:59 AM

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#17799: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:19:20 AM

If we count filler he got pretty strong. Not enough to actually matter though because power inflation in this series be cray.

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#17800: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:34:49 AM

Or at the very least, he could ask Ten or Krillin or Yamcha to play the bad guy.

Would any of the abovementioned be able to pull off a believably hammy flair? Goku didn't just need a guy for them to fight, he needed a supervillain.

Weird theory but I get the feeling that Toriyama only temporarily wrote Tenshinhan out of the Buu Saga just so that he could, very briefly, be the Chekhov's Gunman.

You're assuming more forethought than Toriyama put into his work.

He actually wrote Tien out at the end of the Cell Saga. Tien flies away after telling everyone that they're never going to see him again. This is because he's not part of the social group and kind of hates everybody.

His absence for most of the Buu Saga is just Tien following through on that. He's missing from the tournament for the same reason he's missing from the social reunion where everyone met Gohan for the first time: because he doesn't care.

Seriously though, Krillin should've been stronger than Namek!Frieza by now. But no one trains because it's the Goku & Vegeta show.

How would Krillin be stronger than Namek!Frieza? Prior to getting his God upgrade, even Goku was weaker than Namek!Frieza in his base form, and he's been constantly seeking advanced forms of training to increase his power in the decade since.

What on Earth could possibly push Krillin beyond Goku?

Is there anything that suggests he even surpassed Ginyu?

He surpassed the other four members of the Force, so it's certainly a less unreasonable suggestion than surpassing Frieza. But no, there's nothing that directly indicates it.

edited 2nd Feb '16 7:40:06 AM by TobiasDrake

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