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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#17026: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:12:25 PM

Yeah, you guys kinda walked right into this one, really.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#17027: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:13:57 PM

So like when do you expect Goku and Vegeta to be stronger than Beerus and Whis? Because you know it's going to happen. Think it might be accompanied by yet another transformation?

edited 23rd Dec '15 7:14:23 PM by LSBK

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#17028: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:14:43 PM

[up]You know Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2's gonna show up sooner or later. Probably sooner.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#17029: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:16:10 PM

Yeah, this sort of happens when the "I'm not going to talk about it, but this thing is terrible" card is played.

It's quite the effective strategy for starting an argument while acting as though it was others who are responsible.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#17030: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:20:39 PM

But Super is shit so that doesn't really matter.

True, but we were already talking about BOG, so shit products aren't off the table.

Needless to say, perhaps Beerus' existence, or the existence of a God of Destruction in general, is necessary to prevent a greater evil from appearing.

I don't know if that's true. He's a guy who carries out destruction, not the personification of it (unlike Death). Anyone can destroy, and Beerus can even go long periods without doing it himself as long as destruction is still happening.

I mean really it'd be easy to off him and replace him with someone who is capable of destruction, but won't be a dick about it. It's a position, and even if it needs to exist, he doesn't need to be the one in it.

Honestly, Goku defeating Beerus would have made BoG significantly worse.

So then Gohan kills him instead

I agree Goku beating Beerus would have sucked, but if Beerus was meant to stop being an antagonist he could have been written as less of an asshole. Or actually made necessary.

edited 23rd Dec '15 7:22:27 PM by Saiga

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#17031: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:20:45 PM

Typically the best way to actually avoid a argument is to ask not to have a argument and move on.

It's worked pretty well for me.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#17032: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:24:23 PM

Let me put it this way.

When you kill a Force of Nature, either everything goes to shit, or something worse takes it's place.

For example, a story in Marvel comics had an alternate universe where Death was killed, so Life was allowed to consume the universe and create a cancerous abomination that threatened to consume other worlds if it wasn't stopped.

Needless to say, perhaps Beerus' existence, or the existence of a God of Destruction in general, is necessary to prevent a greater evil from appearing.

Or heck, for a more direct comparison, Galactus devouring planets is often portrayed as necessary for the Marvel universe to function.

edited 23rd Dec '15 7:24:36 PM by Moth13

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#17033: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:26:44 PM

[up]To be fair, I have the exact same problem with Galactus as I do with Beerus. The superheroes should just murder that son of a bitch already so he doesn't try to destroy Earth again for the millionth time.

But apparently, yin and yang have to be in a narrative, no matter how much they have to stretch things to show how it would work. (grumblegrumble)

edited 23rd Dec '15 7:31:45 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17034: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:27:43 PM

Beerus isn't actually a force of nature. He's doing a job that cab be fulfilled by almost every powerfull member of the cast on Earth. His death wouldn't result in come cataclysmal cease of destruction as a concept.

edited 23rd Dec '15 7:35:15 PM by VeryMelon

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#17035: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:30:21 PM

Yeah I'm not a big fan of Galactus either, mostly because due to Depending on the Writer he comes off as suuuuuper evil sometimes.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17036: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:31:39 PM

Galactus' problems are due to Marvel Comics being a never ending series of events, so his exact need for eating planets suffers from Depending on the Writer.

edited 23rd Dec '15 7:31:56 PM by VeryMelon

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#17037: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:33:41 PM

Oh, and speaking of Galactus.

They actually DID just decide "Fuck it" and killed him off once, but then it turns out he had a multiverse destroying abomination inside of his body, so they had to revive Galactus so he could use the Ultimate Nullifier to get rid of him for good.

And recently The team called the Ultimates used Galactus' birth pod to change him into a being that gives life to worlds instead of devouring them

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#17038: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:34:53 PM

I have finally gotten a synched version the Dragon Ball Evolution Riff.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#17039: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:43:19 PM

Yeah, Galactus eats planets because the energy he gains from it goes toward maintaining a seal on Abraxis.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#17040: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:47:31 PM

Though like I said they killed him off after his only appearance so you kind of wonder why Galactus bothers nowadays besides Status Quo.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#17041: Dec 23rd 2015 at 8:12:39 PM

And it makes you wonder if something like that will happen with Beerus. If every universe has their own God of Destruction, having one die (without a successor) would be a really big deal.

Of course, King Kai died in the Cell Saga, and that didn't do anything. Except in Bojack.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#17042: Dec 23rd 2015 at 8:14:59 PM

@Baffle Blend

How do you feel about Legend of Korra?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#17043: Dec 23rd 2015 at 8:31:35 PM

This was alluded to earlier, but this is how Galactus appears to be spending his time now.

Oh God! Natural light!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17044: Dec 23rd 2015 at 8:54:42 PM

I actually thing it's fitting that now Galactus is giving back life instead of taking it.

Considering the crazy shit Marvel just went through recently, giving back life makes sense.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#17045: Dec 23rd 2015 at 8:58:26 PM

If not for that caption and some additional research, I'd easily have assumed Galactus was cooking that planet for lunch.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17046: Dec 23rd 2015 at 9:46:36 PM

I liked Galactus in the Squirrel Girl comic.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#17047: Dec 24th 2015 at 12:11:43 AM

So many nuts.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#17048: Dec 24th 2015 at 3:13:28 AM

So where would World's Strongest best fit in if we assume they get to 2 million right as the Cell Saga ends? Would they make it another movie by Nappa, a fake story Gohan tells Videl to try to impress her, time travel or something else?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#17049: Dec 24th 2015 at 4:16:34 AM

Remember that Super showed that Beerus has the power to DESTROY ENERGY. Like, erase it. I think God of Destruction is more than a title: like all the God positions have been thus far.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#17050: Dec 24th 2015 at 4:22:25 AM

[up]x8: Haven't seen past the first season. Too many things rubbed me the wrong way about it, though funnily enough the problems I had with it are completely unrelated to this argument.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer

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