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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16051: Dec 4th 2015 at 8:56:30 AM

...I kinda think they do.

Saiyans do not seem to have much in terms of energy storage.

The Ox King could start collecting more taxes.

edited 4th Dec '15 8:57:53 AM by unnoun

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#16052: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:01:00 AM

I imagine their food consumption dropped dramatically post-Cell. Not only is Goku not around, but the lack of crises (barring Bojack) means that Gohan isn't regularly expending impossible amounts of energy throwing ki attacks at evil dudes.

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#16053: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:08:05 AM

Chi-Chi traded Goku for Goten, though. A fully-grown Saiyan adult for a developing Saiyan child. As food consumption goes, I can't imagine that saved her any money.

Also, ki expenditure had that terribly large of an impact on food consumption, every protagonist would be a Big Eater, not just the Saiyans. Kame-sennin astonishedly watching Goku eat his entire prize winnings in food from the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai is an effective demonstration of the difference between a Saiyan appetite and any other martial artist one.

edited 4th Dec '15 9:09:40 AM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16054: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:14:53 AM

How does Roshi live?

Like, Kame House is a capsule house and has a lot of amenities.

When he was training Goku and Krillin he collected their wages from milk delivering, but. I don't think he does outside of that.

...Does Roshi have investments?

300 years is a lot of interest.

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#16055: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:22:14 AM

My guess is that Saiyan evolution didn't have permanent settlements in mind.

Think about it, everything about them is built to destroy as many things as possible. That doesn't seem suited for any kind of sustainability; I read on the wiki that, when Frieza struck, the Saiyan population was only a few thousand individuals.

I repeat: a few thousand.

On a planet ten times Earth's mass.

Each Saiyan probably had several hundred acres of food to themselves with no danger of running out any tome soon. When one source ran out, they'd just go onto the next, and the planet's so damn huge they had more than enough space to do just that. They probably never developed agriculture because they didn't need to — I'm assuming Planet Vegeta had wildlife. This strategy, of course, would probably have bitten them in the ass with famine after a few thousand years, but they didn't exactly get that far.

edited 4th Dec '15 9:27:16 AM by BaffleBlend

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16056: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:40:16 AM

I mean. Supposedly they didn't originate on Planet Plant.

Number 21.

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#16057: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:43:45 AM

That just kind of convinces me more of the idea that Saiyans were engineered bio-weapons.

Like, everything about them is built to destroy and consume and be able to get stronger to destroy more.

None of it makes sense from a natural selection standpoint, but all of it makes sense if they were engineered as a last resort by a loosing side in the war or something to that degree.

Like, they can even turn into giant monsters under moonlight for no other reason than that it makes it easier to destroy stuff.

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#16058: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:48:36 AM

[up]In a strange time travel twist, the ultimate Tuffle science engineered warrior is the Saiyan race.

So if Bardock's time travel special is canon, where did Tuffles come from?

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#16059: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:54:43 AM

According to the original Bardock Special, those things WERE the Tuffles. Team Four Star made them into Saiyan ancestors.

edited 4th Dec '15 9:56:00 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#16060: Dec 4th 2015 at 9:56:40 AM

[up][up][up][up]That is a good question. In an arc in Dragon Ball it was shown they do groceries by plane in a nearby city/town. Te same arc have Master Kame and Kuririn really excited with the opportunity to cash in a large diamond, which I think is evidence that even if he have enough to go by it is not like he is rich.

Maybe Kame live out of pensions or something. And Kuririn might do an occasional job which dependently is not enough to make a living by himself, but might help out with the budget.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#16061: Dec 4th 2015 at 10:05:14 AM

[up] I have been wondering. Why do you call him Kuririn when everyone else calls him Krillin?

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#16062: Dec 4th 2015 at 10:06:25 AM

Some people prefer using the original names instead of the dubbed names.

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#16064: Dec 4th 2015 at 10:08:13 AM

[up][up][up]The spelling differ across countries(and some times even in different publications in the same country). It is a bit annoying trying to remember how it is spelled in the US and since everyone here knows who I am taking about anyway, I see no reason to bother.

I sometimes spell it Kulilin as it is actually how it is speled in the manga (the original, I mean).

edited 4th Dec '15 10:09:43 AM by Heatth

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#16065: Dec 4th 2015 at 10:17:46 AM

Was that another GT reference in the Entry 21 on the countdown?

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#16066: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:02:55 AM

I like the abridged version of those things being Saiyans better. It explains a lot.

See, if they were proto-Saiyans instead of Tuffles, then it suggests that the humanoid form of Saiyans and the ability to become the Super Saiyan were bred into the species via reproducing with Bardock - as one of the proto-Saiyans does is in the abridged version after being kicked in the stomach. That it's even possible to reproduce with Bardock explains why half-Saiyans are so easy to make and come with no genetic defects: because the Saiyan reproductive system just naturally accommodates other species.

The implication that Bardock committed several acts of violence against the obnoxious little creatures over the course of his life - causing his genes to thoroughly saturate the Saiyan gene pool and resulting in a widespread outbreak of humanlike appearances and the ability to become the Super Saiyan in future generations of the species - is hilarious to me.

It also creates an origin paradox and those are always fun.

edited 4th Dec '15 11:05:29 AM by TobiasDrake

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#16067: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:05:34 AM

So I decided to watch Bio-Broly after seeing TFS talk about it...

I think one thing that could have fixed it is if they'd decided to NOT use Broly. Just make it some new villain that's bioengineered to be the perfect warrior. I mean, the movies rip plot points off of the original anime enough, why not just steal Cell's origin?

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#16068: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:08:05 AM

Yeah, like most of the things he's in, Broly's inclusion makes the movie not nearly as good as it could have been. :/

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#16069: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:10:01 AM

Removing Broly wouldn't have increased the quality of the film for me.

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#16070: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:10:40 AM

Plus, it could have used a bit more Android 18. Seriously, she only holds a bit of relevance to push Mr. Satan around (which is all pretty funny), but then gets her ass whupped by Bio-Broly (who is so lame that he's not even fit enough to be genuinely called Broly).

Also, I couldn't help but notice this one scene where 18 is telling Krillin to stay home with their daughter while she went. I couldn't help but think of that part in Resurrection F where the exact opposite happened.

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#16071: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:12:15 AM

Yeah, having Krillin do that to 18 just feels not only sexist, but also kind of weird.

Because it's completely out of character for them.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16072: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:12:54 AM

...So what you're saying is that Toei treated a female character with more dignity than Toriyama.

...Huh.

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#16073: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:14:36 AM

I don't know about that, but it just made me think.

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#16074: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:15:09 AM

Context. 18 said that to tail Mr. Hercule Satan, not to get in a fight.

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#16075: Dec 4th 2015 at 11:22:53 AM

I found it funny in the beginning of Bio Broly how 18 was trashing Mr. Satan's office trying to get her money.

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