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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15876: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:29:01 PM

Toei pulled Broly out of their butts.

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#15877: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:31:00 PM

Yep. Broly was a solution to a plot hole that never actually existed in the first place.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#15878: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:34:18 PM

Maybe Broly's mad because everything was done so that Goku could be the greatest of Bardock's children. *In Gilbert Goddfried voice* The only reason I exist is so they could create you.

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#15879: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:35:57 PM

[up][up]You would think it'd be a plot hole that didn't exist in Japan, though. Or was Broly not created there? I think I've heard History of Bardock was made in the US and then later dubbed in Japanese, though I'm not sure how that'd work.

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#15880: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:37:48 PM

Should that matter? Broly is Paragus's child. If anything, Raditz should be mad that Goku went super.

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#15881: Dec 1st 2015 at 2:37:52 PM

Broly was a solution to the plot hole of "Why was it that Super Saiyans stopped becoming ruthless and evil by instinct?"

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#15883: Dec 1st 2015 at 4:54:35 PM

I just rewatched Christmas Tree of Might, as I do every year, and when it got to the Black Comedy bit about Rudolph, my train of thought completely derailed when I realized — he flies and uses something that could very well be a ki technique.

My mind's going silly places. He's one of the first characters I ever really liked, so the mental image of him possibly training to become one of the most powerful beings on Earth made me chuckle.

Just a random thought. A dumb one, but hey.

edited 1st Dec '15 4:55:11 PM by BaffleBlend

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#15884: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:33:55 PM

I think there's a Dinosaur Comic about that.

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#15885: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:45:01 PM

...well, they made a 16 singing "Let it Go" joke.

They clearly think the same way as we do.

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#15886: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:54:19 PM

[up][up]Found it.

...dammit, now the concept of Martial Artist Rudolph is gonna be in my head for a while. :p

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#15887: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:57:02 PM

That's one of my favorite "overthinking fantasy things until they become sic-Fi/horror" comics in Dinosaur Comics.

My favorite being what he did with King Midas.

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#15888: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:57:18 PM

That sounds a lot like an SCP Foundation thing, but with dinosaurs.

edited 1st Dec '15 5:57:36 PM by BaconManiac5000

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#15889: Dec 1st 2015 at 5:58:38 PM

Check the previous and following to see what Frosty is like under SCP-style scrutiny.

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#15890: Dec 1st 2015 at 6:00:05 PM

Rudolph with Ki blasts? DBZ and Christmas? A character getting hit in the scrotum and using in-universe euphemisms to refer to it? Robot Chicken's got you covered.

edited 1st Dec '15 6:05:34 PM by WillKeaton

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#15891: Dec 1st 2015 at 6:01:27 PM

I'd forgotten that one, but now I remember vividly without even opening that link.

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#15892: Dec 1st 2015 at 6:22:07 PM

He'd have to be as strong as he is in the short in the Abridgedverse anyway to have (presumably, due to Santa still being active) survived against the Crusher Corps, even if he didn't win. Though come to think of it, knowing just how bad DBZ injuries can get, that scene actually gets even darker now that I imagine the poor guy fruitlessly fighting back, yikes...

With that in mind, along with Piccolo/Goku's power levels being the strongest on Earth during Raditz' arrivalnote , I'd gauge Abridged!Rudolph's power level to be in the 150-200 range if I had to take a wild guess.

Ah, power levels, can't have a DB-iscussion without em.

edited 1st Dec '15 6:36:26 PM by BaffleBlend

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15893: Dec 1st 2015 at 6:49:51 PM

I don't care if they don't use it in the actual episode, I want a full version of 16 singing "Let it Go".

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edited 1st Dec '15 6:50:08 PM by unnoun

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#15894: Dec 1st 2015 at 6:57:41 PM

I have to say, that's one of my favorite of their movies.

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#15895: Dec 1st 2015 at 9:02:00 PM

You know, because none of the Broly movies were at the bottom of the list, this DBcember provides another reason to ask "When Broly?"

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#15896: Dec 1st 2015 at 10:13:51 PM

Hey, do you guys think I should make a general Team Four Star thread for things like their non-Dragon Ball LPs and their Top 10 lists and whatnot? I'd really like to discuss their latest Top 10 video but it's rather off topic.

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#15897: Dec 1st 2015 at 10:20:38 PM

We could always just turn this thread into a Team Four Star General Thread. It'd be simpler really.

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#15898: Dec 1st 2015 at 11:39:05 PM

[[quoteblock]]With that in mind, along with Piccolo/Goku's power levels being the strongest on Earth during Raditz' arrivalnote , I'd gauge Abridged!Rudolph's power level to be in the 150-200 range if I had to take a wild guess.[//quoteblock]]Are the power levels in this series really that much lower than the original? Canon Raditz has a power level higher than 1200.

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#15899: Dec 2nd 2015 at 3:52:09 AM

Would the movies being canon explain why Goku puts so much faith into the Spirit Bomb?

He doesn't. He did against Vegeta, before he'd actually tried it in combat, and against Freeza he was desperate.

When Vegeta brings it up against Boo, Goku is dumbfounded that he thinks it will work until Vegeta brings up the idea of having people donate their energy directly to it.

Wait if it was a mistranslation then how did the Broly movie come about? It was made in japan, right? There was no translation to mislate.

The Broli movie does nothing to reference the "once in 1000 years" line. That came from the Western releases, and Western fanbase, taking the mistranslated line and applying it to Broli in order to fix that supposed Plot Hole.

The original movie doesn't really outline why Broli is "The Legendary Super Saiyan. Reportedly, the idea at Toei Animation was to have a Super Saiyan with a unique genetic mutation, which hilariously makes him less likely to be the "true" Super Saiyan if he's just some new kind of being.

I think I've heard History of Bardock was made in the US and then later dubbed in Japanese, though I'm not sure how that'd work.

The US haven't made anything except video games and Evolution. Shit video games and Evolution. I've heard people say that about Broli, Bardock, GT and even Z. It's all lies.

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#15900: Dec 2nd 2015 at 4:05:02 AM

Are the power levels in this series really that much lower than the original? Canon Raditz has a power level higher than 1200.

The power levels are unchanged. Even Raditz's. Goku and Piccolo's power levels at the start of Z were just over 300 apiece. That's why they were pushed into using a self-sacrifice against him, remember?

edited 2nd Dec '15 4:05:35 AM by BaffleBlend

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