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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#15751: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:45:34 PM

I just want 16's dying monologue to be about nothing but birds. We've been building up to that imagery since 16 was given a hobby.

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#15752: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:56:06 PM

I want a callback to Aquaman.

"The birds will save us! BIRDS! BIIIIIIIIIRDS!"

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#15753: Nov 29th 2015 at 3:03:55 PM

The question is how they can make it funny whilst still keeping it dramatic.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#15754: Nov 29th 2015 at 3:11:15 PM

I'd say by making it relevant and touching while still referring to some species of bird every sentence or two.

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#15755: Nov 29th 2015 at 3:21:46 PM

Have his entire speech be nothing but a string of bird puns that still somehow touching.

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#15757: Nov 29th 2015 at 8:09:01 PM

I like that disclaimer on the shirt ad.

"not to be circulated on pain of Alucard".

"pain of death" would probably be sufficient, but you really need to sell the punishment on this one.

...Why didn't Krillin fly to reach the mic's height?

edited 29th Nov '15 8:10:20 PM by Enlong

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#15758: Nov 29th 2015 at 10:39:50 PM

Because he's an idiot.

"I AM AN ADULT" actually makes for a better shirt outside of context.

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#15759: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:31:15 AM

As someone who's only read the manga, what was the actual Garlic Jr. Saga like?

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#15760: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:36:57 AM

Garlic Jr. escapes the Dead Zome through some one-time weakness in the dimensional divide. He attacks Kami and Popo and tales over the Lookout. He goes to a special room and places a jar of water that awakens evil intentions in people, which pours down from the lookout, becomes a fine mist, and spreads over the whole world, making a bunch of people go evil.

Some of our heroes, including Gohan and Krillin, avoid the mist and go to fight Garlic, while Kami journeys to the room where the evil jar was placed, so he can remove it.

It all ends with Garlic Jr. opening and falling prey to the Dead Zone. Again.

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#15761: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:41:54 AM

... actually not that bad, honestly. Garlic Jr. and his henchmen take Kami Tower, seal Kami in a bottle, then release the Black Water Mist from the place where the world's winds originate, which make people evil and serve Garlic Jr.

By merit of Goku not being around, it had, you know, spotlight for other people which was nice. And I liked Piccolo's gambit ( he was unaffected by the mist, by merit of being kinda... Made of Evil and when he bit people he actually told them to pretend to be brainwashed).

The only thing that really bothers me about the arc is, like Dead Zone, it ends when Garlic Jr summons the Dead Zone (AKA the one thing that can defeat him). AGAIN. Even as a kid, that struck me as incredibly lazy writing.

edited 30th Nov '15 6:42:43 AM by Larkmarn

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#15762: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:48:43 AM

I mean, Piccolo was stronger than Vegeta at that point.

He might not be able to kill Garlic Jr. But he could probably break his arm. Or his spine. Or take out his eyes. Or his lungs so he'd pass out from lack of oxygen to the brain.

Immortality is overrated.

edited 30th Nov '15 6:48:53 AM by unnoun

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#15763: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:52:17 AM

As a note, GT does take the Garlic Jr. saga into account; they use the same solution to rid Earth's population of the Tuffle infection.

So if they ever decide to abridge GT, they might wind up going "...whoops".

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15764: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:54:31 AM

They are never going to abridge GT.

I think some of them would rather die.

edited 30th Nov '15 6:56:02 AM by unnoun

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#15765: Nov 30th 2015 at 6:56:05 AM

Immortality is overrated

Us mortals have a serious case of sour grapes.

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#15766: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:05:02 AM

Pretty sure Vegeta became stronger than Piccolo after Dende healed him. He was the only one who could react in time to save Gohan.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#15767: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:06:08 AM

Pfft, immortality. What do you do when you've done everything? What about the afterlife? Don't you wanna see what that is like?

Immortality just means eventually you run out of meaning for everything.

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#15768: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:06:44 AM

Mortality means you run out of you, though. Often before you want to.

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#15769: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:07:36 AM

[up]x5: Two Words — Cooler 2.

...and the Buu saga in Kaiser's case.

That they hate something doesn't mean they won't abridge it, and I'd actually like to see what they can do to not just make fun of it, but fix it.

Besides, the whole series is only 42 episodes; less than even one Z arc.

edited 30th Nov '15 7:08:20 AM by BaffleBlend

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#15770: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:08:31 AM

[up]x4: Yeah, seemed the case. He also seemed the strongest at the beginning of the Android Saga with the way he was taking charge... but then again, he would probably be doing that if he was weaker.

Eh, we've seen the afterlife. It's not that different from normal life. Hell, can't some people travel back and forth? The Kaio-shins aren't dead, after all.

DBZ seems to take "immortality" to mean "invulnerability" though. It's tough to tell since Garlic Jr. is the only example, but the fact that he wasn't broken or hurt from anything seemed to indicate that. Anyone's attacks could at best stagger him, or he'd heal anyway. It's a sweet deal, honestly.

edited 30th Nov '15 7:15:49 AM by Larkmarn

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#15771: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:10:33 AM

[up][up] They cut it down to make funny cliff notes though, for GT despite being short actually moved kinda fast and there is A LOT of shit to make fun of.

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#15772: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:11:16 AM

Yeah Garlic jr. being immortal only matters when he's also stronger than whomever he's fighting, and last I check he was way weaker than Raditz.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#15773: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:12:54 AM

I liked the Garlic Jr. mini-saga, the villain actually had a creative plan besides "kill everything with superior strength", and it was nice to see an arc that didn't have Goku or Vegeta. Plus, Kami's ordeal was a nice way to give him a small spotlight while simultaneously justifying Piccolo being weakened for the fight.

Regarding the immortality, someone (Gohan, I think) pierced a hole through Garlic Jr.'s chest. He regenerated on the spot, and said it was thanks to his immortality. So, removing organs wouldn't work to stop him.

On the other hand, the Mafuba could work. That was a missed opportunity, having Piccolo or Kami seal away Garlic Jr. with that would've been great.

EDIT: Also, they justified Garlic Jr. being stronger with this being a once-in-a-lifetime event that strengthens demons. Not a bad explanation, as afar as Dragon Ball goes.

edited 30th Nov '15 7:14:32 AM by JonnasN

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#15774: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:14:42 AM

[up] [up] He got a power boost by some passing evil star which allowed him to escape the deadzone. That saga version of him was stronger than Piccolo but not stronger than Gohan.

edited 30th Nov '15 7:15:01 AM by Memers

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#15775: Nov 30th 2015 at 7:15:18 AM

Yeah, I was surprised the Mafuba didn't come back. Would've been perfect. The only problem with it is potential Continuty Lockout.

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