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#15326: Nov 15th 2015 at 10:04:35 PM

It's just as well that Dragon Power defeated TFS at Rabbit Gang. It was only one level after that before the game goes from hilariously bizzare DB retelling to bland filler for another half of the game.

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#15327: Nov 15th 2015 at 10:37:08 PM

The Ginyu/Goku bit has some amazing lines in general. Goku's totally freaked out reaction when Ginyu hits himself is my favorite.

"Sir, you're supposed to do that to me!"

It's like, fighting is the only thing Goku understands and suddenly it makes no sense.

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#15328: Nov 15th 2015 at 11:11:24 PM

"Oh, but I DID do it to you!"

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#15329: Nov 16th 2015 at 5:23:44 AM

The whole Ginyu episode is perfect because of the aversion of Voices Are Mental. It really highlights just how talented Masako and Antfish are that they could mimic each other's performances so well, and it really wouldn't have been as hilarious otherwise.

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#15330: Nov 16th 2015 at 8:27:42 AM

I loved that aversion too. It's so simple yet so rare to see.

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#15331: Nov 16th 2015 at 12:54:04 PM

Indeed.

I always hated the trope Voices Are Mental.

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#15333: Nov 16th 2015 at 12:59:47 PM

I like for mental voices to be mental, but not physical. When I'm voicing books and comics for my household and a mind-swap happens, the way I read it is that they speak in the voice of the body they're in but with the personality that came with them, but they think in their original voice.

So, for instance, during the Superior Spider-Man arc in which Doc Ock was in Spider-Man's body, I would read SpOck's voice as I would Spider-Man's but with an egotistical edge to it, and use my unmodified Ock voice for his voice-over narration.

edited 16th Nov '15 1:02:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#15335: Nov 16th 2015 at 1:09:23 PM

Yeah, that. Though I understand that can get really confusing, especially since the trope occurs quite frequently in children's works.

That said, I'd have to say the worst was in Batman Beyond, when the fact Ra's al Ghul was mind-uploaded into his daughter's body was because when he speaks naturally, it's in the old guy's voice rather than the sexy daughter's. Just sort of weird.

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#15336: Nov 16th 2015 at 1:12:04 PM

Oh man I really wish they could long-play this game and do all the weird story modes.

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#15337: Nov 16th 2015 at 1:41:50 PM

I despise Voices Are Mental. It's common in cartoons, but fortunately live action generally does away with it. I say generally because I once saw a show where this kid switched bodies with the elderly butler of his schoolyard nemesis. So instead of having the kid's actor play the part of the old man stuck in a young kid's body, they dressed up the kid actor in the old man's clothes and everyone who looked at him thought he was the old man; and vice-versa. It was incredibly stupid.

edited 16th Nov '15 1:42:43 PM by WillKeaton

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#15338: Nov 16th 2015 at 1:42:45 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] It makes sense, too. People tend to have a mental "voice" that differs greatly from their actual voice; it's why you see people get shocked when they first hear themselves in a recording.

[up][up][up] Yeah, it's bad enough when a show's playing Voices Are Mental straight, but it's worse when the show actively addresses it. Because now there's no reason why no one shouldn't notice the literal voice change other than being completely daft.

edited 16th Nov '15 1:43:13 PM by Watchtower

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#15339: Nov 16th 2015 at 2:11:46 PM

That's true. I think some writers believe it makes things more realistic for other characters to notice the voice swap, but it actually produces the opposite effect.

Have you ever watched a show where it was clearly meant to be pitch black, everyone was stumbling around like it was pitch black, they were talking about how they couldn't see, but there was enough light in the actual image that we could tell where they are and what they were interacting with? This fourth-wall schism is done for the audience's benefit; there is no light in the scene, but we can see anyway because otherwise we'd be staring at a black screen. Our observation conflicts with their reality in such a way as to allow for an easier understanding of what is transpiring.

Voices Are Mental is the same thing. It's done for the audience's benefit. Goku is not actually speaking with Ginyu's voice, just his tone and inflection, but we hear it in Ginyu's voice because that's a convenient way to communicate that the change has occurred.

If Goku is actually speaking with Ginyu's voice, that just raises further questions and confuses the issue unnecessarily. It makes far less sense for other characters to react to a trope that they aren't supposed to be able to perceive.

edited 16th Nov '15 2:13:14 PM by TobiasDrake

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#15340: Nov 16th 2015 at 2:18:36 PM

[up]Don't you mean if Goku isn't actually speaking with his voice in Ginyu's body and vice versa? Because the way you explained that contradicts your point, I think.

Edit: Actually, looking at it I'm not sure if you're even talk about TFS version or the actual thing.

edited 16th Nov '15 2:19:40 PM by LSBK

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#15342: Nov 16th 2015 at 2:25:48 PM

[up][up] I meant in the original, and I was just using it as an example.

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#15344: Nov 16th 2015 at 3:09:18 PM

@ How 18 blocked the Special Beam Cannon in Supersonic Warriors: I'm going to guess the same way Piccolo blocked it when Cell did it.

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#15345: Nov 16th 2015 at 3:18:35 PM

I like Piccolo's story in SW, if only for the use of a bunch of DB-era plot points that make a sort of "what if" sense.

Another reason why I wish I could play Percel's story in Xenoverse.

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#15346: Nov 16th 2015 at 3:20:58 PM

...Admittedly I'm not sure how Piccolo blocked it when Cell did it.

Also not sure why it blew up a building when it penetrated two Saiyans.

Kinda weird.

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#15347: Nov 16th 2015 at 3:21:54 PM

That's what makes it special.

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#15348: Nov 16th 2015 at 3:24:47 PM

Piccolo, Krillin, and Dr. Gero probably had the best what-ifs in Supersonic Warriors. Supersonic Warriors 2 was a 'little' more grounded with its what-ifs but came with the trade-off of being a far superior fighting game (that being said, Ginyu's what-if in 2 is GOLD).

edited 16th Nov '15 3:25:31 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#15349: Nov 16th 2015 at 3:26:35 PM

Gero's was comedy gold.

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