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#15126: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:15:58 AM

It didn't kill Tenshinhan because he saw it coming and dodged it. I guess Lapis just didn't see it coming.

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#15127: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:16:19 AM

I don't think there's been anything to indicate he didn't.

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#15128: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:16:33 AM

There's also that possibility.

Anything Tien can dodge, 17 can dodge. 17 is much faster than Tien. However, what Tien can do and 17 cannot do is sense the attack coming for him.

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#15129: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:16:59 AM

[up][up][up] I swear, I'm never gonna get used to seeing them referred to as Lapis and Lazuli.

Wait, if they fuse would they become a depressed blue gem in a mirror?

edited 6th Nov '15 11:17:08 AM by AdricDePsycho

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#15130: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:18:28 AM

Lapis and Lazuli vs Lapis Lazuli with access to all the H 2 O in the universe.

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#15131: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:19:05 AM

[up] Pearl would win because she's just that thirsty.

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#15132: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:24:53 AM

18 knows how to sense energy in Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return.

Maybe 17 dodged it.

I think it's harder to dodge the planet blowing up.

Or, maybe he survived that too with an energy barrier. With his limitless amount of energy. The Earth gets wished back an hour later and he's still in his park.

We don't know.

We know that after the Earth and people come back he's ranging a park.

EDIT: 17's energy can't be sensed, so would he even have been one of Buu's targets? Would Buu have known where 17 was and to send a blast at him?

His zoologist wife and their kids probably died, but.

edited 6th Nov '15 11:32:05 AM by unnoun

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#15133: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:31:42 AM

I kinda want it to be revealed that 17 created a huge barrier, protecting himself and his family and they were just about to run out of oxygen when the Earth was wished back.

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#15134: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:34:57 AM

EDIT: 17's energy can't be sensed, so would he even have been one of Buu's targets? Would Buu have known where 17 was and to send a blast at him?

That is what I am thinking. I think 17 didn't need to dodge because Buu simply did not shoot at him. He was probably just having a perfectly normal day ranging his park until he suddenly noticed people all over died for no reason. Hell, considering how fast everything happened, 17 might not even have noticed anything was wrong until the planet exploded.

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#15135: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:36:01 AM

EDIT: 17's energy can't be sensed, so would he even have been one of Buu's targets? Would Buu have known where 17 was and to send a blast at him?

Hey!cool

His zoologist wife and their kids probably died, but.

Ooooohsad

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Oh shit. So it's possible he never even knew his wife and kids were killed until the planet blew up. Or maybe he did. Who knows.

Man. These are the stories that need to be written.

edited 6th Nov '15 11:37:21 AM by HandsomeRob

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#15136: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:37:43 AM

I mean, I thought the Human Extinction Attack worked by Buu sensing all the humans and then sending ki blasts at their energy signatures.

17 doesn't have one of those. Unless Buu sees, hears, or smells 17 he'd be unable to tell 17 even exists.

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#15137: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:40:37 AM

Shouldn't he, though? I mean, the cyborgs' battle energy comes from their tech, but they still have organic parts which should logically have some amount of life energy. And if Buu's senses are keen enough to find every farmer with a shotgun out there...

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#15138: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:45:25 AM

Goku can sense Bulma. Goku cannot sense 17 and 18.

...I mean, 18 probably had a detectable ki signature when she was pregnant with Marron. It wasn't hers, but.

edited 6th Nov '15 11:45:48 AM by unnoun

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#15139: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:46:42 AM

But the Z Fighters explicitly couldn't sense any of the Androids, 17 included. He just doesn't have a ki signature. It's... one of those things.

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#15140: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:48:39 AM

...I mean, 16 could detect that Cell was stronger than 17. So if the PTO's scouters were like 16's sensors they might have worked on the androids.

Regular ki sensing doesn't do jack though.

edited 6th Nov '15 11:48:59 AM by unnoun

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#15141: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:48:57 AM

But that's weird.

Well, maybe the high-fructose ki substitute Gero invented masks any other sources of ki from detection. Like a deodorant with no scent of its own.

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#15142: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:50:20 AM

Presumably, their inorganic components also mask their natural human ki signature. Stealth mode, if you will. Or like [up][nja] said.

And yeah, I assume 17 was alive until the planet done gone bursted.

edited 6th Nov '15 11:50:48 AM by Anomalocaris20

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#15143: Nov 6th 2015 at 12:06:31 PM

I think this is just something we'd need to ask Appule and Gero.

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#15144: Nov 6th 2015 at 12:15:43 PM

I think it's another thing Toriyama probably hasn't given much thought to.

Logically, 17 would have died when the earth was destroyed, unless he really could create a barrier that can not only withstand the explosion, but also hold enough air to keep them alive as well......but then Buu likely would have seen him and killed him anyway.

I supposed we'll have to wait for Forgetful Toriyama to tell us what really happened so we can all say he's wrong.

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#15145: Nov 6th 2015 at 12:19:21 PM

You know, I wonder how Gohan is going to react if he bonds with Android 16, only to find out that Android 16 cannot be brought back via Dragon Ball.

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#15146: Nov 6th 2015 at 12:19:26 PM

Do we actually know that Androids (Cyborgs) can't breathe in space?

edited 6th Nov '15 12:19:46 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#15147: Nov 6th 2015 at 12:22:13 PM

Perhaps a Nappa will be pulled and 16 will be brought back, so he can go watch the birds in the park that is being ranged.

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#15148: Nov 6th 2015 at 1:03:02 PM

17 and 18 don't need to eat.

They do need to drink water.

I dunno about breathing or sleeping.

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#15149: Nov 6th 2015 at 1:08:27 PM

ANDROIDS ARE NAMEKIANS.

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#15150: Nov 6th 2015 at 1:11:22 PM

But wait... They do have reproductive genitalia.

As evidenced by 18, and presumably 17.

Not Gero, he got rid of that for some reason.


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