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#15101: Nov 6th 2015 at 6:36:22 AM

More that people with scouters rarely encountered folks who could mask their power and raise it at will. Such that relying on your first assessment is dangerous. More knowledgable opponents like Ginyu are experienced enough to not take the first reading at face value.

Would scouters be able to read the energy from an android or their blasts?

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#15102: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:27:24 AM

Depends on whether or not the Scouter can read the Ki of a Android, as Androids Ki seems to work differently from natural Ki.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#15103: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:29:12 AM

You know who's power levels are bullshit? Kinnikuman's.

Because they are literally power levels. As in they seem to be defined solely by how many planets you can bench-press.

Which means you get a special attack that revolves around making your power level zero in order to move faster.

And let's not even get to the part where you can literally give up some of your power level and give it to someone else. And it works like a fucking health potion.

edited 6th Nov '15 7:29:50 AM by Watchtower

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#15104: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:32:01 AM

To be fair, in Dragon Ball, you can transfer your ki to someone else in order to temporarily boost their attack. The failed Super Saiyan God ritual showed as much.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#15105: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:33:25 AM

Ki seems to work like a battery cap, how much energy can you hold and how long will it last you. As the characters seem to get tired if expending too much Ki, and become energized if given some.

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#15106: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:34:55 AM

My issue with Power Levels isn't the idea of attaching a number to them, it's the fact they exist.

It really does bug me how certain characters are relegated to 100% worthless because they don't have the means to boost their power levels. When characters get several magnitudes of power stronger than anyone else can possibly become basically by existing, it bugs me.

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#15107: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:35:51 AM

[up][up][up] But that actually makes sense because ki is tied to attack power.

I am literally talking about "Oh no, my best friend is injured! Quick, let me turn 10,000 of my power level into a fucking ball so that he could eat it and heal up!"

edited 6th Nov '15 7:36:18 AM by Watchtower

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#15108: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:47:41 AM

Oh kind of like eating a Big Bang drill to become strong enough to break the universe.

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#15109: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:49:53 AM

[up][up][up]Your issue is with power creep then, not power levels.

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#15110: Nov 6th 2015 at 7:55:05 AM

Didn't Toriama make Power Levels to be kind of unreasonable? Like Frieza's army kept assuming that the level was low because that's what the scouter said and they lost?

This would presume that they had no issue beforehand with the scouters and that they do have some use of giving someone a base idea.

What I find amusing is how any time someone's power level rises pretty high, there's always this comment:

"The Scouter's broken. The damn Scouter is busted. My Scouter's not working right. The Scouter must be screwed up."

Even the people who rely on the Scouters have absolutely no faith in them, preferring to assume that the Scouter's just screwing up again rather than that their adversary is really that tough. Scouters must be horribly unreliable for that to be the go-to impression all the time. I wonder how many times a person with a Scouter glances at a frog and the Scouter's like, "120,000! ULTIMATE FROG!" or happens to see a pig pass by and gets, "150 million, LEGENDARY SUPER SWINE!"

Given that they explode an awful lot, I have no difficulty believing this. Scouters are awful.

edited 6th Nov '15 7:56:29 AM by TobiasDrake

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#15111: Nov 6th 2015 at 8:00:36 AM

Damn shame Apple has the monopoly on them. Gero's dead, so he can't come out with updates for the Android version.

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#15112: Nov 6th 2015 at 8:04:02 AM

Damn Kaioshins cornering the market.

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#15113: Nov 6th 2015 at 8:10:23 AM

[up][up] You sir deserve a internet award for that comment.

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#15114: Nov 6th 2015 at 8:12:25 AM

[up][up][up] [lol][awesome][tup]

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#15115: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:23:59 AM

[up][up][up][up][tup][tup][tup][awesome][lol] I applaud you sir!

edited 6th Nov '15 9:24:13 AM by EdwardsSenpai

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#15116: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:25:18 AM

There is more to Broli than his muscles or power. He's got fans interested in him for other reasons as well, like how he is a villainous Super Saiyan (the first real example we had), how he embodies the Vegeta's original ideal for the Super Saiyan while utterly horrifting thd current Vegeta, how he draws much inspiration from Sun Wukong's myth just like Son Goku, and how he's different from the villains who came before him.

You know, that's the first time I've heard an actual defence for Broli / Broly. And I never considered the Evil Super Saiyan thing before.

Oh and Japan doesn't hate him exactly, lampooning him is a prevalent meme but that would be like saying the west hate Yamcha. Or saying the Japanese hate Yamcha. Etc.

I don't think people hate Yamcha, but sometimes the mocking gets so overdone it feels like it. Plus some people probably do end up hating him cause they feel the need to counter the Humans need to be more awesome! crowd, and thus will ruthlessly cut him down at any opportunity in order to shut that bunch up, arguably becoming just as bad in the process.

But that can happen for every character.

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#15117: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:27:40 AM

You know what, no one can dodge my TH Bomb.

"Let me guess TH stands for-"

"Trucker Hat, YES!"

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#15118: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:43:54 AM

"Not my first guess, actually!"

I want to know what Goku thought it was.

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#15119: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:45:55 AM

"THirteen", perhaps?

I want to know what the SS stood for in the original name of "S.S. Deadly Bomber"

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#15120: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:46:37 AM

I'm trying to think of a delicious food that has T.H. prominently.

That would be a Goku suggestion.

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#15121: Nov 6th 2015 at 9:59:03 AM

[up]Tiramisu hotcakes?

I don't think those exists.....well ok, they definitely don't exist, and I don't even know what they would be, but it's food, and it's Goku, so I still think my suggestion is plausible.

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#15122: Nov 6th 2015 at 10:04:46 AM

Tremulous Hotdogs.

Tempting Hotcakes.

Truffle Honey.

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#15123: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:12:24 AM

It's weird that people always assume their scouters are always broken when we have yet to see a scouter malfunction in any way. Well, unless you count the exploding part.

Something that occurred to me: Buu's human genocide attack didn't kill Tien, so shouldn't 17 have survived as well?

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#15124: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:15:26 AM

He might have. Unlike Tien, 17 can't sense energy so he wouldn't have been able to fly out and get in a fistfight with the incomprehensibly powerful Super Buu even if he wanted to.

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#15125: Nov 6th 2015 at 11:15:36 AM

[up][up] Depends. Tien was able to dodge it, so unless 17 was quick enough, than it's entirely possible he could have.

edited 6th Nov '15 11:15:44 AM by AdricDePsycho

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