That was just 17 poking fun at his appearance, but I got chills when 13 actually said it.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Appearance? More like his southern dialect...the emphasis on Trucker Hat.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I think the only thing that even gives it slight credence is that during that time, there was a Shonen Jump Popularity Poll where Gohan ended up being ranked lower than Goku, Piccolo, Vegeta and Gotenks. But then again, Gohan was Put on a Bus for a good portion of the Buu Saga too.
Right. I recall Saiga debunking that point once by pointing out that Gohan was at the height of popularity before he was Put on a Bus and came right back after, but I can't recall the sources for that. Saiga's way better versed in the metashow than I am.
In any case, there's usually a false claim of "Word of God says that it was supposed to end at Piccolo/Vegeta/Frieza/Cell and Gohan was supposed to be the main character but then he was FORCED to change it," but unless someone can cite the interview it took place in, I defer to my good friend, the 16th President of the United States.
"Never trust an unsourced quote you find on the internet." ~Abraham Lincoln
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Amusingly, 18 mocking 13 is the first actual line of Super 13 Abridged.
Speaking of the movie, what did 15 mean when he said that booze doesn't do anything for him "anymore"? Is he a cyborg? It's just, the other Gero-bots (Gerobots) call him android 15, and his head-case has machinery inside it rather than a brain.
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I think it's pretty clear that someone, somewhere had no idea what an android was.
I see what you did there.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.My prediction for Broly is...well, first they're probably going to make a whole bunch of professional wrestling jokes that'll go over my head. But second, I think they'll just make Broly The Berserker and have everyone else make fun of how ridiculous this premise is.
And Goku makes everything worse by being Goku.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!And instead of Vegeta being such a goddamn blubbering pussy about "oh shit, he's the legendary Super Saiyan", he just sits out the fight because he doesn't give a shit.
Or maybe he was bullied by Broly as a kid or something. Broly needs to be depicted as being a dumbass, because he kind of already is in canon.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?I can imagine Paragus and Broly having a Han/Chewie dynamic, with Broly only speaking in grumbles, yells and moans, but Paragus translating all of that to eloquent English. Bonus points if Goku also understands Broly's language.
Then again, they had a similar joke going on with Cooler's robots, so who knows.
Gohan topped the popularity polls at the end of the Cell Games, because of the whole Super Saiyan 2 and defeating Cell stuff. The Boo arc poll was published after Boo absorbed Gotenks and defeated Gohan, but the votes would have been taken and totaled much earlier (Jump has issues prepared weeks in advance). Due to Gotenks placing highly on the second poll, I believe it may have been conducted while he was prominent, which would also mean Ultimate Gohan was yet to be a thing.
So it doesn't seem likely Toriyama would be influenced by these polls to remove Gohan, because judging from the results he could easily make Gohan the most popular again by simply having his Ultimate power-up successfully lead to him saving the day. There's also the possibility that Toriyama had made his decision before the poll was conducted, since Evil Boo's plan seems to have been set up pretty early on.
I think another factor in Toriyama choosing to bring Goku back was that he was already falling back on old storytelling styles. The Boo arc originally started off not just with Gohan as the lead, but a completely different style and tone. Maybe the two had to go hand in hand for him. So when the storyline became something close to the earlier "Z" era arcs, he also brought back the protagonist from those arcs.
edited 5th Nov '15 3:04:28 AM by Saiga
Boo (and Toriyama) was probably preparing for Gohan since he fough SSJ 3 Gotenks
Since there was emphasis placed on Gotenks explaining that his power had a time limit and Boo making note of it, rather than a reaction being retconned in
edited 5th Nov '15 5:44:28 AM by Medigo03

Yes, they have. They foreshadow the movie villains a lot. Broly and Cooler both appear during the Bardock special, Cooler ordered Ginyu to do the Daddy's Little Princess dance when Frieza collects the Dragon Balls, 17 makes fun of 13 shortly after he and 18 are awakened, etc. Bojack being imprisoned in Kaio-sama's planet, while not entirely accurate, is another of those.
It's impossible to make the movies perfectly line up with the story's chronology but TFS certainly does their best to make them at least feel less sudden and isolated.
EDIT: Speaking of 17's mockery, I was certainly not disappointed when 13 finally got to deliver his line. "I'm Android 13. Look at mah trucker hat."
edited 4th Nov '15 12:01:08 PM by TobiasDrake
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