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#14101: Sep 16th 2015 at 10:54:52 AM

He has a brain case underneath a giant hat that invokes the impression of an afro.

Trying to describe 15 doesn't really do him justice. For sake of reference, we are talking about this.

edited 16th Sep '15 10:55:17 AM by TobiasDrake

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#14102: Sep 16th 2015 at 11:04:06 AM

If you guys didn't mention it I would never in a million years linked Android 15 to any sort of racial caricature.

Then again I'm not from US so maybe my racist sense is just not as well tuned. tongue

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#14103: Sep 16th 2015 at 11:09:20 AM

Japan isn't that much more sexist or racist than the U.S.

There aren't a lot of countries and societies that aren't a little sexist or racist.

The Aka are pretty cool as far as sexism goes, at least.

...I have to say, given Japan doesn't have a lot of black people to begin with, the only place they might get common stereotypes of them is from us and our media.

So.

edited 16th Sep '15 11:09:58 AM by unnoun

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#14104: Sep 16th 2015 at 11:25:58 AM

I don't really see how 15's hat could be interpreted as an afro. It totally looks like a weird sombrero.

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#14105: Sep 16th 2015 at 11:31:02 AM

Completely agree there.

edited 16th Sep '15 11:31:52 AM by Memers

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#14106: Sep 16th 2015 at 12:17:32 PM

That was a really sweet ending...all things considered.

And boy is Trunks going to enjoy sticking it to his Dad next episode, I can't wait to see it either.

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#14107: Sep 16th 2015 at 12:23:13 PM

I love how Trunks knew exactly where things are going the second Cell mentioned that he could beat Vegeta if he was Perfect. Because Vegeta is predictable as a rock in a free-fall.

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#14108: Sep 16th 2015 at 12:46:09 PM

Maybe Toriyama (or whoever was behind the character designs of the movies) was just a fan of 70's cop shows.

Seriously though, yeah. Unlike a few other anime characters that look like blackface to a Western audience, 15's is hard to handwave. It's the bow-tie that clinches it to me.

edited 16th Sep '15 12:51:58 PM by KnownUnknown

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#14109: Sep 16th 2015 at 12:56:33 PM

Yea, he looks like he's wearing a zoot suit

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#14110: Sep 16th 2015 at 1:02:48 PM

You could say basically any country is really racist or sexist and be right. The thing is, Japan is way in your face about it, apparently without trying to be, and seem worse at discussing or even acknowledging it than many others countries. Or at least, that's the feeling I get about it.

~Realizes he's pretty late to the discussion and has nothing to add~

You know what, I also look forward to Trunks whooping Vegeta as well. It's a long time coming. I hope they leave in the line about being too much like his father.[lol]

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#14111: Sep 16th 2015 at 1:29:29 PM

No wonder I genuinely didn't even see 15 as black until this discussion. I had no idea his suit was linked to black stereotypes. Heck, I still don't know which stereotype that is, and why it is offensive.

But it's still a sombrero to me. That doesn't have the right shape, texture or colour of an afro.

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#14112: Sep 16th 2015 at 1:40:38 PM

It took me a while watching the movie, but I eventually clicked with the idea of Android 15 being black.

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#14113: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:00:06 PM

Chances are 15 is just a random mesh of weird foreign stereotypes that the Japanese creators just put together. Kinda like sometimes we find a karate fighting Shaolin monk called Kim, or a tango dancing toreador wearing a sombrero. Basically, he is still probably an offensive stereotype, but not in the way some here are claiming.

edited 16th Sep '15 2:01:15 PM by Heatth

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#14114: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:10:50 PM

The hat isn't a sombrero. It's more dome shaped, it just looks like one due to the angle. Kinda reminds me of a rastacap, but less colorful.

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#14115: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:15:11 PM

"Bitch, I'm adorable."

I love this episod.e

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#14116: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:18:48 PM

I especially liked the brief bits with Goku and Gohan. Especially the stinger. That escalated quickly.

Also

  • Piccolo: Would you trust Vegeta with a baby?
  • Bulma: Not MY baby!

edited 16th Sep '15 2:19:16 PM by TobiasDrake

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#14117: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:21:04 PM

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#14118: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:50:21 PM

[up][up]The Goku and Gohan segments were really nice indeed. It shown how their relationship wouldn't be as bad if so much sit haven't happened. Sure, Goku still doesn't understand Gohan ("I like training too"), but at last they are having a good time.

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#14119: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:51:46 PM

It also came pretty close to Goku admitting that Freeza threatening Gohan is what pushed him over the edge to transform.

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#14120: Sep 16th 2015 at 2:53:19 PM

He indicated it was the combination of factors.

The failure of the Genki-Dama, Krillin's death, Piccolo tripping and falling down, and Frieza threatening Gohan.

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#14121: Sep 16th 2015 at 3:04:53 PM

Still, Gohan was a factor.

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#14122: Sep 16th 2015 at 3:33:55 PM

I like how Goku doesn't really know why Piccolo fell down, he just saw him feeling fine and then fell over.

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#14123: Sep 16th 2015 at 4:06:30 PM

In the dub of Super Android #13; #15 has like two lines and they're both really short and EXTREMELY 'generic robot bad guy'. Design-wise maybe, voice-wise no.

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#14124: Sep 16th 2015 at 4:09:51 PM

Hm, that's not how I remember it.

Although I haven't seen it in a while.

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#14125: Sep 16th 2015 at 4:15:57 PM

I think the dub of that movie gave them more line actually. In the original 14 and 15 only said "Kill Goku" over and over.


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