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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13826: Aug 31st 2015 at 3:55:46 AM

Every good person who died after the world tournament was brought back.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#13827: Aug 31st 2015 at 6:01:23 AM

[up]Yeah, but I was wondering if the Namek balls brought back victims who weren't killed by Buu.

On another note, "bringing back only non-evil people" has to lead to some awkward situations ("How come my brother never came back from the dead, like I did...?").

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#13828: Aug 31st 2015 at 9:58:05 AM

Even more awkward, their next wish to Shenron was to erase everyone's memory of Majin Buu. This was done to avoid complications with Buu sticking around and hanging out with Mr. Satan.

Which means that for anyone who knew an evil person, not only did that person abruptly die, they don't even know why. All the evil people on the planet Earth just spontaneously died for no reason one day.

edited 31st Aug '15 9:58:51 AM by TobiasDrake

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13829: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:06:51 AM

Though, it probably caused a great reduction in crime for a time. So that's a plus, if not a bit confusing. And honestly, you think these people actually thought about it for more than a second? I think some are forgetting how stupid they all are.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#13830: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:07:04 AM

[up][up] Somewhere in the afterlife, Light Yagami is throwing a shit-fit over not getting to it first.

Two guesses why he's in the afterlife, and the first doesn't count.

.....Thought: the bad people that weren't brought back were probably not affected by the brainwipe. That's gotta suck.

edited 31st Aug '15 10:07:12 AM by Watchtower

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#13831: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:13:44 AM

Here is the thing though, if all the bad people are gone why is the Great Saiyaman and Great Saiyawoman still fighting crime? If all the bad people are gone then they should have nothing to do.

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#13832: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:21:25 AM

Because there's voids to fill. The good people are going to become bad people soon enough.

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#13833: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:44:49 AM

People are people, after all.

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#13834: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:50:46 AM

There's a difference between the bad people that rob banks, and the bad people that try to resurrect an ancient genocidal monster by absorbing people's energy. The later is what the wish was intended to account for.

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#13835: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:01:23 AM

New people become criminals every day. Desperation, hurt feelings, and chemical dependencies are societal constants.

edited 31st Aug '15 11:02:05 AM by TobiasDrake

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#13836: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:08:57 AM

Yeah, the assumption that only "evil" people are criminals is, frankly, kinda toxic. It is not like people born criminals.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13837: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:27:03 AM

Yeah, but I was wondering if the Namek balls brought back victims who weren't killed by Buu.

Vegeta specifically worded the wish to include his own victims, while still excluding Babadi.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#13838: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:27:07 AM

I imagine there's a pretty large leeway on how evil you have to be before you don't get brought back. Vegeta was allowed to stick around after all.

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#13840: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:31:56 AM

And several people in the audience's, too.

I guess Porunga is just a super big fan of the Death Equals Redemption trope. Or he thought it'd be funny to reward Vegeta his life right in the middle of fighting a god-killing abomination that would almost certainly take it back from him five seconds later.

edited 31st Aug '15 11:34:13 AM by TobiasDrake

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#13841: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:35:17 AM

Joke's on him.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#13842: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:37:44 AM

He has no mugs!

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#13843: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:42:50 AM

The wish must have completely missed Pilaf and co.

Maybe they're just so bad at being evil that Shenron decided they don't count.

edited 31st Aug '15 11:43:00 AM by KnownUnknown

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#13845: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:53:11 AM

I think Vegeta being wished back is less 'he's a good guy now' and more 'he's not super evil'.

Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#13846: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:23:56 PM

Just imagine being one of the bystanders to die twice on that day

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#13848: Aug 31st 2015 at 5:15:52 PM

To be fair to Vegeta, he had to allow himself to be possessed by an evil being in order to become evil enough to fight Goku (which is what he thought he needed).

He'd spent 7 years losing his bad guy edge, and then while technically possessed to be as evil as he used to be, he still sacrificed his life to try and save everyone and make up for what he did before.

He then made a wish under the assumption that he'd still be dead because he included himself in the wish to keep the most evil people dead.

I mean, Piccolo said he'd go to hell for all the people he killed, and he did, but it seemed he'd changed just enough to not fall under the terms of his own wish, and it's entirely possible Porunga knew that when he let him come back, and probably knew it before Vegeta himself realized it.

Of course since being alive again meant he was much more vulnerable to Buu, it actually worked against it. It still worked in his favour, but being dead would have been better in that case.

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#13849: Aug 31st 2015 at 5:51:39 PM

Maybe they're just so bad at being evil that Shenron decided they don't count.

While their primary objective is world domination, their method of choice is pretty non-violent. They'll harm people in their way, but don't go out of their way to cause harm. They've never killed anybody that we know of, but not for lack of trying. The worst thing they've ever done was reviving Piccolo Daimao, and that was explicitly a case of being bumbling idiots who bit off more than they could chew.

Thinking about it, I think I would describe them as morally Neutral.

I mean, Piccolo said he'd go to hell for all the people he killed, and he did, but it seemed he'd changed just enough to not fall under the terms of his own wish, and it's entirely possible Porunga knew that when he let him come back, and probably knew it before Vegeta himself realized it.

And even that's only in the dub, due to Westerners not really being able to grasp non-Christian afterlife concepts.

In the manga, there is even less dispute between Piccolo's assumption and Porunga's wish. In the manga, the reason Vegeta will never see Goku again is because Goku keeping his body is a rare and special circumstance for awesome people, and Vegeta doesn't qualify. Vegeta's soul will be purified and then reincarnated as is standard procedure.

Both Piccolo and Porunga can be right. It's not hard to see how Vegeta isn't good enough to qualify for keeping his body, but also isn't evil enough for Porunga to leave him dead.

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#13850: Aug 31st 2015 at 7:35:35 PM

The wish was to bring back all but the "really evil" people specifically, so it wouldn't come close to purging the world of crime.


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