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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13776: Aug 29th 2015 at 8:45:25 AM

Of course, they might very well have things get worse too.

I'm hoping they don't but considering how hard they've pushed the Goku is a shitty father angle, it's hard to have faith.

I have faith they will make things hilarious, but not that they'll start turning around the stuff about how good a dad Goku is.

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#13777: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:00:03 AM

I think expecting Goku and Gohan to make amends before Gohan asks for Piccolo's outfit, Goku gives Cell a Senzu, and Piccolo calls out Goku for being a shitty father is putting the cart before the horse.

edited 29th Aug '15 11:01:04 AM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13778: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:39:21 AM

Seems fair, but considering Gohan's issue with his dad is constantly abandoning his family (which includes death), Goku dying again isn't gonna make things better.

And remember that Goku decides to come back just to fight in a tournament. He could have used it for anything (including Goten's birth) but chose that instead.

That should make things even worse.

edited 29th Aug '15 12:49:32 PM by HandsomeRob

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#13779: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:50:19 AM

I didn't know that returning to the realm of the living for 24 hours also allowed time travel. Why would Goku wish to be present for Gohan's birth twice?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13780: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:50:21 AM

He only got one day. And how would he know when Goten was going to be born at set things up in advance?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#13781: Aug 29th 2015 at 12:32:07 PM

I don't think Goku even knew Chi-chi was pregnant when he died.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13782: Aug 29th 2015 at 12:50:11 PM

Fix the error, and while it's true he wouldn't know, that might not matter to Gohan if his bitterness grew bad enough.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13783: Aug 29th 2015 at 1:28:43 PM

Chichi couldn't have even known she was pregnant before Goku died.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13784: Aug 29th 2015 at 1:31:59 PM

I mean, she might not even have been pregnant yet because it can take a few hours for the sperm to reach and fertilize the egg, and then a few days for the blastocyst to implant.

Course, I dunno when in those 10 days they banged, or even whether or not it was during the ten days or in the lead-up to the Androids showing up so.

edited 29th Aug '15 2:49:40 PM by unnoun

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#13785: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:49:48 PM

It's not entirely impossible if they did the deed immediately after Goku left the Time Chamber but it's certainly unlikely.

Goten couldn't have been conceived at any point during that three year time skip because Trunks is about a year older than him and he was born shortly before 19 and 20 arrived.

edited 29th Aug '15 2:51:27 PM by Zelenal

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13786: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:56:56 PM

I think it has been confirmed Goten was conceived during that week of relaxation before the Cell Games. Really, no other time makes sense.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#13787: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:57:28 PM

They had ten days to prepare for the Cell games. Plenty of time for Goten to be conceived. As I'm sure Team Four Star will make ABUNDANTLY clear.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13788: Aug 29th 2015 at 3:02:56 PM

Yeah, they've already set that up. The only reason Chichi is even going along with all this is because she wants another baby.

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#13789: Aug 29th 2015 at 3:07:51 PM

"Right in the Gotens!"

Even if he didn't know in advance when Goten would've been born, he could've just shown up after. Of course, he could've also shown up when Goten would remember him, or used that magic King Kai telepathic conversation power to talk with his family...

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13790: Aug 29th 2015 at 3:09:03 PM

I mean, the night before they went to South City would still work, given the entire Android Saga is like. A day, two tops.

edited 29th Aug '15 3:09:36 PM by unnoun

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#13791: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:45:11 PM

[up] There are three days between the Androids defeating Vegeta et al and Vegeta/Trunks entering the Room of Spirit and Time. Then they're in the room for a full day, then Goku and Gohan are in for almost a full day.

I mean I don't think I'm contradicting you on that working (don't know much about pregnancy) but that is exactly how much time passes.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13792: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:59:06 PM

That's still not very much of a difference.

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#13793: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:00:17 PM

I figured, I was only clarifying.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13794: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:02:56 PM

It doesn't help that the sun has a bad tendency to never fucking set when battles are going on.

It was only just starting to go down during the Saiyan Saga (so neither the Z Warriors or Nappa and Vegeta ate anything during that time) despite two whole days passing. I don't recall it being night during much of the Android/Cell Saga either, up until Cell began waiting for the tournament to happen.

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#13795: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:06:27 PM

The most insane part would easily be the Namek Saga where an entire week passes and nobody ever really rests. Vegeta takes all of one nap and spends some time unconscious and Gohan and Krillin eat one meal.

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#13796: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:11:53 PM

If they didn't eat that one meal, they would've died.

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#13797: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:14:54 PM

They all had Senzu beans though (except for Bulma, who had more than one meal) which are worth ten days of food.

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#13798: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:16:43 PM

Well, there were night battles in Dragon Ball and early Saiyan Saga, because Oozaru. Namek had the handy 3 suns excuse. After that... I got nothin'.

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#13799: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:21:46 PM

[up][up] They didn't get the Senzu until after Goku arrived which was at the end of all that. Beforehand, they had no excuse.

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#13800: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:22:58 PM

How long had it been since their last beans, at the end of the battle? Also, they were fed and rested on their trip, weren't they?


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