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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13701: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:50:42 PM

Which made no sense, seeing how easily he was able to destroy Vegeta in his first form.

Edit: He may have been injured, but he was still in his final form. I think there was something about him holding back because he was worried about surviving the explosion but I'm not sure if that's filler or not.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:51:49 PM by LSBK

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#13702: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:50:48 PM

Don't worry, Vegeta gets better.

Oh really when?
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#13703: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:51:36 PM

No, it wasn't. But it was an indication that until Buu saga, Characters weren't able to destroy planets instantly with a non charged Ki blast.

Hell, Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta in his first form is not really true, as their was no proof in the manga that he was in his first form when he did, and Dragon Ball Minus, done by toriyama about the time period when he did, didn't really help clear up things.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:51:46 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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#13704: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:53:57 PM

[nope]

edited 25th Aug '15 1:54:38 PM by Enlong

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#13705: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:05:11 PM

Character statements from in verse are scrutinized until actually proven true.

But... the characters have the ability to sense how powerful things are.

Also, are we seriously doing the "anime stuff doesn't count even if it doesn't contradict stuff because I say so" thing again?

edited 25th Aug '15 2:06:07 PM by Moth13

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#13706: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:07:41 PM

Well, I mean, if someone had the ability to vaporize you with a thought and claimed they were strong enough to wipe out a solar system, and you could gauge their power and saw that they were wrong, would you be like "Nuh uh! You can't do that!"?

I'm not saying he couldn't wipe out the solar system, but I doubt anyone would correct him, even if they could tell he was correct or not.

edited 25th Aug '15 2:08:31 PM by BaconManiac5000

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#13707: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:09:10 PM

When I attacked the Saiyan's[sic] homeworld of Planet Vegeta and fought the King, I was able to do so without needing to transform.

Volume 20, page 163.

edited 25th Aug '15 2:09:50 PM by TobiasDrake

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#13708: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:05:01 PM

Also, Vegeta was capable of destroying planets when he arrived on Earth. His Galick Gun could do that which is why Goku had to counter it with his Super Kamehameha. If Vegeta can do it with a power level of 16,000 then Freeza sure as hell can with a power level of 530,000.

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#13709: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:39:53 PM

Muten Roshi, with a Power Level less than 139, destroyed the MOON. This is real, and has never been contradicted. Why is it so hard for people to accept that the strength level of Dragon Ball characters is easily Solar System buster and up when Moon busting level is introduced so early in a series that is infamous for Power Level inflation?

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#13710: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:45:50 PM

Because it's an Outlier, as King Piccolo, supposedly stronger then roshi, never did anything similar when using all his power in his attacks, that's why.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13711: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:51:48 PM

Well what exactly was Piccolo Daimaou supposed to do on a similar scale? He can't exactly blow up the Earth because his entire thing is ruling it. And these characters very explicitly control their power to keep the Earth from being destroyed most of the time (at least in Z they do).

Roshi blowing up the moon isn't an outlier; it's something that actually happened, that we have no reason to consider a joke, and no reason to doubt was actually possible.

edited 25th Aug '15 5:52:21 PM by LSBK

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#13712: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:57:16 PM

Piccolo also blows up the moon and, while his power level was drastically higher than Roshi's, it was also drastically lower than Vegeta's.

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#13713: Aug 25th 2015 at 6:23:07 PM

And while Roshi did it by pouring all of his energy into that one attack, Piccolo did it casually, with a normal Ki beam.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#13714: Aug 25th 2015 at 6:40:10 PM

The last time I tried to analyze the power levels of the character during Dragonball was way back when I was trying to figure out at what point, if any, in the timeline the characters would've been able to fight against the cast of Street Fighter fairly. I think is was during a "what if someone made a Capcom vs Shonen Jump game?" conversation.

I think I settled on "around the time Goku fought Tien in the tournament."

In general, Dragonball didn't overtly focus as much on pure power as Z did, at least not to the same extent.

edited 25th Aug '15 6:42:18 PM by KnownUnknown

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#13715: Aug 25th 2015 at 6:41:30 PM

Usagi fights enemies capable of destroying planets (and in one case, kills a sentient evil planet).

Hell, Galaxia planet busted by pointing at one. [lol]

One of my favorite Manga Usagi moments is against the Galaxia Senshi. That was pwnage.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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#13717: Aug 25th 2015 at 9:29:40 PM

Lani was tazed again. While playing Rocket League on stream.

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#13718: Aug 25th 2015 at 9:35:22 PM

Um, should they still be doing that?

I mean, it's legitimately dangerous isn't it?

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#13719: Aug 25th 2015 at 9:36:13 PM

Yep

Oh really when?
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#13720: Aug 25th 2015 at 9:44:51 PM

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Well then that just further proves that they should FUCKING STOP!

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#13722: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:23:07 PM

Because they thought it'd be teh funneez.

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#13723: Aug 26th 2015 at 4:38:24 AM

Guys, I already explained what happened when I linked to the stream highlights.

In this case, Lani hid the taser while drunk, Kirran found it, then he let the chat coerce him into tasing Lani. Also, they are aware of how dangerous it can potentially be since they stated that they can't tase Grant because he has a heart condition.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13724: Aug 26th 2015 at 5:00:45 AM

I think the stream chat sounds like a lot of fucking monstrously awful people.

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#13725: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:29:43 AM

I have to agree with unnoun, it sounds pretty horrible that they'd want Lani to be tazed.


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