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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13601: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:05:52 AM

Because Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 aren't about raw power. They give a small boost to all stats, yeah... but it's pretty small. The real bonus to them is that your Supers and Ultimates don't cost ki while you're using them, which does make them effective spammers. But the forms also have pretty big drawbacks (ki drain, plus loss of stamina once you drop the form - effectively a guard break).

Also, the stat spread of Saiyans was made pretty bad to make up for their ability to use transformations. It went a little too far.

Humans meanwhile have very good base stats and passive ki regeneration, which is extremely useful. Also all races have access to Kaio-ken, which provides bigger stat bonuses than Super Saiyan 1 or 2 at the cost of draining stamina - but it's easy to offset that with moves that use ki to recover stamina, and since humans regenerate their ki quickly they can maintain Kaio-ken easier than most races.

Then the 3rd DLC pack added a transformation that is just plain better than Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 - Unlock Potential. It lacks the free Supers and Ultimates, but has a better stat boost (again) and drains less ki - while also not deactivating the human racial ki regeneration, which actually regenerates FASTER than Unlock Potential drains ki. It's possible to maintain the transformation indefinitely.

[up] Super Saiyan 1 / 2 still make for better burst spamming than the human's with regeneration, though. It lasts longer than a human can empty their ki bar, even factoring in their regeneration. It's just that while the human stops first, they also start back up again first.

DamascaRamza (Ancient one)
#13602: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:23:41 AM

Well crap now I'm not sure who I want to play as. I'm still thinking Earthling because I'd enjoy it more then a Saiyan but I'm not 100% sure. I still have time to decide though, but it's good to know that Earthlings didn't get the short end of the stick in Xenoverse.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#13603: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:24:20 AM

Isn't a short, female Earthling the best character in the game?

Oh, for some arcane reason, your character's height affects their stats.

edited 21st Aug '15 4:24:47 AM by Zelenal

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13604: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:34:20 AM

Just play a Freeza Clansman. Nothing gamebreaking about them.

DamascaRamza (Ancient one)
#13605: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:44:31 AM

Are they fun to play as though? I want to have fun while playing as my Time Patroller. I know they're Fragile Speedsters according to the character page for Xenoverse, but that's all I know.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#13606: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:50:54 AM

Play as a Namekian and put literally all of your points into Health.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13607: Aug 21st 2015 at 4:56:48 AM

[up][up][up][up] It's up for debate. It seems like it's Short Female Saiyan vs Short Female Human for PvP.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13608: Aug 21st 2015 at 5:00:43 AM

All classes play the same. The only real differences are movement speeds on land and air, and race-restricted things like Ki-Regen for Earthlings and Super Saiyan transformations for the Saiyans.

Freezas have a unique ki blast that stuns an enemy for 2 seconds but you have to good enough to hit people with it, but that's it.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13609: Aug 21st 2015 at 5:04:39 AM

The differences in play come in what you choose to put your stat points in, and what Supers/Ultimates you run. You can freely change your Supers/Ultimates at any time and Shenron can reset your stats, so you won't get stuck in a playstyle you don't enjoy.

DamascaRamza (Ancient one)
#13610: Aug 21st 2015 at 5:11:36 AM

I am so glad I asked here, this has been a huge help. I'm thinking Freeza's Race is what my Time Patroller will be at this point.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#13611: Aug 21st 2015 at 7:11:39 AM

I'm sure that won't scare the crap out of Goku or Vegeta or Raditz or Frieza or anything.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#13612: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:52:08 AM

Play a Human. KRILLIN TOO STRONK.

It still irks me that Frieza's race doesn't have a name.

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#13613: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:53:25 AM

Cell actually calls them Frost Demons in Xenoverse, apparently.

Watch Symphogear
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#13614: Aug 21st 2015 at 11:11:06 AM

Even more hilarious is if you equip a human with Future 18's Z Soul. Double the KI Regen, double the max-KI attack boost, double the fun.

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#13616: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:08:56 PM

[up]Weird, I was listening to FFVII's soundtrack when I first saw that. This should be good.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#13617: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:30:30 PM

I think I heard Purpleyeswtf in there.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#13618: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:39:17 PM

Seriously? I love that guy.

Oh really when?
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#13619: Aug 21st 2015 at 6:22:43 PM

Hearing that TFS was doing this made me realise FF 7 is a lot like DBZ, in that the original translation was pretty awful and probably changed a whole lot.

I wonder if they're going to address that. I hope they do.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#13620: Aug 21st 2015 at 6:49:54 PM

I have a confession to make. I've never played FFVII, nor have I played any FF game made afterwards. I have however played almost all of the first six FF games. I'm kind of looking forward to the new remake, as that will probably be how I experience FFVII for the first time. The thing that really bugs me about the Final Fantasy series is that, games I through V were in a fantasy setting, with castles and kingdoms and empires and stuff. VI was also the same, but did have mechs, but the mechs were powered by magic, so it was still kind of old-fashiony. Starting with VII however they changed the setting to a futuristic sci-fi setting, and I think most of the games since have been more sci-fi than fantasy. To me that was just, I don't know, it felt like they were being unfaithful to what Final Fantasy was.

Does anyone know if the song used for the opening for the two TV specials has a name?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#13621: Aug 21st 2015 at 6:54:03 PM

VII is overrated. Play X. X also isn't futuristic, for story reasons.

Or play Shining Force or Fire Emblem.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#13622: Aug 21st 2015 at 7:09:39 PM

VII is a good game, try to look past the absence of man-eating unicorns and castles and the Hype Backlash, it's still a fantasy world and a solid game.

Well, who knows what the remake will be like, but I'd still recommend downloading the original somewhere. I try to gain an appreciation for the original before I go and play the shiny remake. The remake could be a pile of crap that biases you against VII altogether.

edited 21st Aug '15 7:12:49 PM by Soble

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#13623: Aug 21st 2015 at 7:09:49 PM

[up][up][up]Final Fantasy IX is like the first six games. I recommend it and VIII for the PS 1 era games to play.

edited 21st Aug '15 7:10:14 PM by GethKnight

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#13624: Aug 21st 2015 at 8:51:36 PM

FFVII is a good game but I'm going to commit an act of heresy that can potentially start a flame way by saying that I think FFVIII is better.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13625: Aug 21st 2015 at 8:52:08 PM

I approve of heresy.

I also agree.

edited 21st Aug '15 8:52:22 PM by unnoun


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