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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#13176: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:25:19 PM

It does bring up a point, though. Gohan doesn't necessarily want to be there. I mean, maybe he does in canon, but not in TFS. In his mind, there's no reason for him to be there. Vegeta and Trunks had just gotten out, and his father was there and could probably train on his own.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13177: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:27:35 PM

I like how Goku is planning on Vegeta to fail, and fail miserably.

DamascaRamza (Ancient one)
#13178: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:47:07 PM

Well I got heaps of laughs out of this episode, primarily how all the Earthlings are trying to give Cell relationship advice and Goku and Gohan in the Time Chamber, which I've been looking forward to since the start of the Cell Saga.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#13179: Aug 1st 2015 at 5:44:58 PM

Now I'm really hoping Gohan will transform in the chamber because of his pent-up aggression against Goku. That way, they can address that plot point early, and SSJ 2 can be the same as canon.

edited 1st Aug '15 5:45:10 PM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13180: Aug 1st 2015 at 5:55:31 PM

If that leads to him getting the fuck over it than that'd be fine.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#13181: Aug 1st 2015 at 6:12:15 PM

Seriously. I've been fucking done with this gag since Namek saga. It's just not funny.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13182: Aug 1st 2015 at 6:13:42 PM

I liked the "I need an adult" reappearance.

...God it felt sorta shitty on Gohan's part, but. It worked, and felt in-character.

...It was funny but in a very very cringe-worthy sorta way.

Possibly one of the darkest jokes TFS has done, in my opinion.

edited 1st Aug '15 6:18:09 PM by unnoun

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#13183: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:04:10 PM

One of the darkest, but I'd say that Cell's pacifier mishap (or really, any of his jokes surrounding people and the drinking thereof, especially when he gets sexual about it) take the cake so far.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#13184: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:08:52 PM

I'd go with the whole 'Freeza-beats-up-Vegeta' thing, because those jokes were very dark (besides Orpheus, the Jamaican Crab Spirit Guide).

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13185: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:18:20 PM

I also want them to deal with Gohan's aggression towards Goku.

I feel like it's all building up towards making Goku's death an even bigger Tear Jerker than in the original version, in that at the time, Gohan will possible flat out hate his dad.

Gonna be a terrible moment. A great but terrible moment.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#13186: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:22:27 PM

I really don't have any faith in them to not screw it up. Mostly because I want to be pleasantly surprised.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13187: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:23:36 PM

I think Gohan basically saying his dad is a child to his dad's face is.

I mean, geez.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13188: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:24:38 PM

....

Considering my bitterness in the main thread, I ain't gonna judge someone for a lack of faith.

I'm gonna try and stick to my lets see how it goes attitude.

I admit, that now that we're at the Goku and Gohan training in the chamber arc, I'm wincing in preparation for how things will go on Gohan's end. But I can at least hope they'll tackle it in the hear and now. Maybe things will turn out better in this version.

[up]It hurt. It means he has more respect for Vegeta and Guru as adults than his own dad.

.....Holy shit. That's really sad.

edited 1st Aug '15 7:25:31 PM by HandsomeRob

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13189: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:26:52 PM

I mean, it also means that, if Gohan thinks about it some more, he should probably be more pissed at his mom for forcing parenthood on someone who, from Gohan's perspective, can't understand what that means.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13190: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:27:51 PM

Honestly on this front I don't blame people for not having that much faith because their feelings on Goku as a father seem pretty obvious.

[up]That also brings up the question of whether or not Abridged!Goku truly understands sex and everything that goes with it. I seriously doubt he does besides "it feels good".

edited 1st Aug '15 7:40:46 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13191: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:28:05 PM

[up][up]He was apparently estranged from her in Trunks' timeline.

It's possible he did.sad

edited 1st Aug '15 7:28:17 PM by HandsomeRob

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#13192: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:28:12 PM

There is also the fact that Goku is dead, or gone because of other circumstances most of the time. Plus he's gonna die at the end of the Cell Arc as we all know. And then refuse to come back because hey he's a big reason why people stop by.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#13193: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:36:06 PM

I think that's the reason I've hated this joke from the very beginning. It's founded on bullshit!

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13194: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:36:56 PM

Unfortunately, they don't seem to be intent on stopping it any time soon.

I'd say it's the one point where they fail miserably.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13195: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:39:04 PM

It's always been kinda ableist.

With Gohan here. It's funny, but it also makes me wince a little. Because wow was it a low blow on his part.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13196: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:40:21 PM

[up][up][up] Not just that, I hate that they really gloss over Piccolo doing very similar but worse actions and make jokes about being Gohan's "real father". Despite the fact that Piccolo's biggest positive was done by Goku - twice - and Goku's worst moment is easily surpassed by Piccolo doing the same, earlier, and not being misguided about it.

Being evil at the time is no excuse, because Piccolo (in canon) still gets annoyed about Gohan becoming soft (even after Goku is at peace with it) and in Abridged still makes comments about "dodge" from his training of Gohan. And in neither action does he ever suggest he believes he did the wrong thing, whereas at least Goku had his epiphany and dropped his plan once he realized.

[up] Yeah I feel Gohan is being portrayed as far crueler than he should be. And it doesn't seem like he's being treated as though he's wrong.

edited 1st Aug '15 7:41:24 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13197: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:49:57 PM

I think the worst part of insults directed at Goku is that he never seems to even notice them.

It's one thing with Vegeta or Piccolo or Frieza because. Well. They're all still at least partially evil or jerks.

But I feel like we're meant to sympathize a bit with Gohan and. It doesn't really come across as sympathetic.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13198: Aug 1st 2015 at 7:52:01 PM

Well, it might have been a bit sympathy inducing when they were making it a point to make Goku seem like he really didn't care (which they did a few times, and I didn't care for it) but now it just seems sort of unnecessarily spiteful.

edited 1st Aug '15 7:58:53 PM by LSBK

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#13199: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:18:56 PM

Well, the Hyperbolic time chamber will be a good chance to have a heart to heart and character development.

And, after all, if a kid feels neglected, it is kinda hard to rationalice, will incur in double standards, and all in all be crueler that necessary. Give'em time.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#13200: Aug 1st 2015 at 8:30:34 PM

[up]

It should be, but to be honest, I'm kinda scared they won't in order to keep doing their Goku is a bad father joke.

Is Goku a great dad? No, but it's not for lack of trying. It's cause he's always dying.

.....heh.evil grin

That being said, you can genuinely want to be a good parent and still fuck it up really badly.

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