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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#13101: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:29:54 AM

Who said King Cold was able to transform, anyway?

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#13102: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:40:10 AM

Well, I mean, I got this from a second-hand source, but I was told that the form Frieza has as his fourth form is his normal form and the ones before that he made so he could better control his power.

Or something.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#13103: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:47:50 AM

That's true, but that doesn't mean King Cold was able to transform, just that Freeza has a form that looks like his father. The only member of said species other than Freeza (who was consistently refered to as a mutant) shown to be able to transform was Cooler. No other member (and we have seen more of them in recent years) was shown to be able.

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#13104: Jul 24th 2015 at 1:12:53 AM

And that wouldn't matter anyway, because none of the references to Freeza being stronger refer to their current forms.

Freeza is just plain stronger than Cold, in the same way the Saiyans are stronger than Piccolo despite not always walking around in Super Saiyan.

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#13105: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:08:22 AM

Visually, Kind Cold heavily resembles Frieza's second form. Given the nature of their transformations, this implies a few different things.

  1. Frieza transforms down instead of up, using transformation as a power inhibitor. His natural state, and the implied natural state of his species as a consequence, is his Final Form. This suggests that King Cold has the ability to transform into a Final Form too, and what we see of him is only a fraction of his power.
  2. Frieza uses the transformations as a power inhibitor because he can't control his full strength - as we see for ourselves, his full power bleeds energy like a sieve. His First Form is the form he's comfortable casually walking around in, requiring three layers of power lock. King Cold walks around in Second Form, under only two layers of power lock, implying a much lower and less uncontrollable maximum for his power.

On top of that, we have both Cold and Frieza acknowledging Cold's inferiority. The closest thing to an impressive feat from Cold that we have is that he was able to get dust on Frieza at least once.

King Cold is unmistakably the inferior of the two, even if you apply the Fridge Logic of his resemblance to Frieza's Second Form.

edited 24th Jul '15 10:10:47 AM by TobiasDrake

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#13106: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:53:22 AM

Alright, that makes sense.

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#13107: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:58:17 AM

He could just be really tall.

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#13108: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:38:17 AM

I wonder if Piccolo could have taken out King Cold, considering he was more than a match for second-form Frieza.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13109: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:40:21 AM

That would depend on how strong Cold is in general. I doubt he was as low as 1,000,000.

Daizenshuu 7 states in King Cold's bio that he is "somewhat inferior" to Frieza.

edited 24th Jul '15 11:43:56 AM by VeryMelon

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#13110: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:51:07 AM

Maybe Cold doesn't have transformations and Frieza was born looking weird?

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#13112: Jul 24th 2015 at 2:41:24 PM

Well, if cold is in his second powered-down form, and he's "somewhat inferior" to Frieza, then Piccolo should be able to take him on.

However, if Frieza is different from Cold in that regard, then yeah, Cold would beat Piccolo.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#13113: Jul 24th 2015 at 3:50:24 PM

And Freeza's race in the expanded verse IS quite variable. Except for Freeza's third form, nothing looks like Freeza's third form.

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#13116: Jul 24th 2015 at 6:13:18 PM

Maybe Frieza simply designed his second form to resemble his father for some reason.

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#13117: Jul 24th 2015 at 7:20:33 PM

Maybe the third form resembles his mother, and the final form resembles his brother, before he realized his brother's a prick.

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#13118: Jul 24th 2015 at 7:20:57 PM

[up][up]I'd just assume that to be the case. Transforming is Frieza's thing, we have no reason to assume everyone member of his race does it.

edited 24th Jul '15 7:21:10 PM by LSBK

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#13119: Jul 24th 2015 at 7:39:26 PM

[up][up]Why would Freeza's race have breasts? What would a reptilian race have need of mammaries?

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#13120: Jul 24th 2015 at 7:41:52 PM

How do we know Freeza's reptilian?

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#13121: Jul 24th 2015 at 8:06:45 PM

Isn't Frieza's Race one gender in Xenoverse, like Namekians?

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#13123: Jul 24th 2015 at 8:13:43 PM

[up][up][up]Well he's sure as shit not Mammalian.

edited 24th Jul '15 8:13:55 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#13124: Jul 24th 2015 at 8:14:35 PM

How do we know that he even falls under any Earth-based classification system?

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#13125: Jul 24th 2015 at 8:46:38 PM

Pretty much skipped to this point, it possible what Frieza does is a mutation like the Ginyu Force?


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