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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12951: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:28:08 AM

...I only liked it a little because.

Well.

...I don't think alcoholism is all that funny.

It's a personal thing.

But. Whatever.

Taka and Erika and Lani's cat are the best.

edited 11th Jul '15 7:30:09 AM by unnoun

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#12952: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:49:04 AM

How can you watch Lani fight the other Hunter while everyone sings "Duel of the Fates" and not find it absolutely amazing?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12953: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:52:20 AM

I mean, it wasn't even as good a song as Battle of the Heroes.

And.

I mean, it was alright, but.

It's not the only part of the video.

edited 11th Jul '15 7:58:47 AM by unnoun

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#12954: Jul 11th 2015 at 12:08:50 PM

To be fair, it's much easier to sing Duel of the Fates than Battle of the Heroes/Anakin vs Obi-wan.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#12955: Jul 12th 2015 at 12:54:15 AM

Okay I brought up this idea in the Manga thread and was shot down but I thought about it and it became my new headcanon. The idea goes like this: the reason Chi-Chi seems like a different person for most of Z and why she allows Goten to train and why she is so adamant that Gohan not train can all be explained as one: she thinks that Gohan is traumatized from Piccolo kidnapping and training him and tries to keep him from training so as to not damage him more. She has no problem with Goten training because he hasn't been kidnapped and isolated for a year and she constantly is mad at Goku because she feels that he is encouraging behavior that Gohan is traumatized from. Thoughts?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#12956: Jul 12th 2015 at 1:16:42 AM

You were shot down because you were wrong, Chi Chi was mentioned as being opposed to Gohan training before Piccolo kidnapped him.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#12957: Jul 12th 2015 at 1:54:07 AM

[up]No, Goku said that Chi-Chi wanted him to grow up to be an intellectual relating a conversation they had while he was four. Parents whose children are at that age have absolutely no control over who the child will become and are just spitballing ideas back and forth regarding the child's future. We never see Chi-Chi's point of view and for all we know Goku could've been just as adamant about him training during that conversation.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#12958: Jul 12th 2015 at 1:59:18 AM

To quote Goku: "I know he's got it in him... but Chi Chi gets mad when I try to train him"

It could not be any clearer than that.

edited 12th Jul '15 1:59:34 AM by Saiga

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#12959: Jul 12th 2015 at 2:20:25 AM

I'd get mad too if I learned that my spouse was trying to train my four-year-old child regardless of whether I would be fine with him training later in life or not.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#12960: Jul 12th 2015 at 2:25:52 AM

That makes no sense when the next line gives her reasoning for not training Gohan: that they don't need martial arts any more, and Gohan will grow up to be a scholar. Why would she be okay with training him later if her opposition to him training is based on the present and future?

It is an extremely warped interpretation over the incredibly obvious answer that is made clear from the very start.

Piccolo is never mentioned as having any impact on this whatsoever, and Chi Chi has never been shown changing her feelings about Gohan until the Boo arc.

edited 12th Jul '15 2:26:29 AM by Saiga

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#12961: Jul 12th 2015 at 3:04:17 AM

Again, he's four, she's right, and we don't see the actual conversation take place. Besides, it explains so much! Why she has no problem with Goten training, why she acts so different for much of Z from her portrayal in Dragon Ball, why she is so against Gohan training when, again, she has no issue with Goten training. I don't care if you disagree; it doesn't directly contradict anything and explains a lot and I'd kinda like to see other peoples opinions of the theory.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#12962: Jul 12th 2015 at 3:09:23 AM

We already had an explanation for why she's different from Goten, she mellowed out after Goku died and acts the same way toward Gohan at that point.

His age is never mentioned as a factor, Piccolo is never mentioned as a factor, and what you've said does contradict the series so you've had to go full Voodoo Shark to try and explain it.

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#12963: Jul 12th 2015 at 3:29:58 AM

Dude I'm not saying it's canon I'm just saying that, in my opinion, it's a better, simpler, and more believable explanation than what you've said. Plus if it is true than it would add a lot of character depth to Chi-Chi. Can you stop flaming my theory? Because I want to see other people's opinions.

edited 12th Jul '15 3:48:29 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#12964: Jul 12th 2015 at 5:07:20 AM

It contradicts canon so you're theory is wrong.

Also, Saiga isn't flaming you, he's explaining exactly why your theory is wrong and you're becoming incredibly defensive and trying to warp facts to support your theory.

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#12965: Jul 12th 2015 at 5:35:19 AM

[up]I don't think it does contradict canon, at least, not more so than Super contradicting the beginning of Battle of Gods. Saiga is being pretty rude about debunking my headcanon.

[up][up][up]Chi-Chi mellowing out is Gohan's conclusion and he can be wrong.

edited 12th Jul '15 5:35:59 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#12966: Jul 12th 2015 at 5:38:50 AM

Chi-Chi taught Goten how to become a Super Saiyan. That right there is proof of her mellowing out. Also, Saiga just finished explaining how your theory contradicts canon. If you refuse to accept facts then so be it but don't start throwing around accusations.

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#12967: Jul 12th 2015 at 5:48:48 AM

[up]As the theory states: Chi-Chi has no problem training Goten because he hasn't had any training-related trauma. Saiga hasn't brought up any points that I haven't provided counterpoints to. And again: I'm not saying that it's canon I'm just saying that it's an interesting idea that, if true, would give Chi-Chi a ton of character depth. It's just an idea, no need to be hostile.

ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#12968: Jul 12th 2015 at 6:06:31 AM

My theory is that Chichi is okay with Goten training because she died in childbirth with him. Popo then collected the dragonballs and wished her back to life because he's secretly in love with her. He also made her promise to train Goten and also never tell anyone.

edited 12th Jul '15 6:07:18 AM by ArcanGenth

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#12969: Jul 12th 2015 at 6:16:07 AM

[up] I'll buy it.

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#12970: Jul 12th 2015 at 6:24:00 AM

[up][up]'smoke' MMMMMMMM that's some good crack!...theory, crack theory, I don't condone the smoking of crack, if smoke is even what you do with crack...

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#12971: Jul 12th 2015 at 10:39:07 AM

I can tell you're new here, so here's the four most important rules of this thread:

1. Saiga is the pope, and always knows exactly what he's talking about. Always. Except once or twice maybe. But otherwise always.

2. Don't ever try to defend Yamcha or pretend he isn't the weakest thing in the universe. It's okay to like him but arguing in his favor is like yelling at a tidal wave.

3. Feel free to bother Handsome Rob, or use him as a stake in a bet. He won't mind. Maybe. tongue

4. Link to Vegeta singing the Super Funtime Bingo song whenever possible.

edited 12th Jul '15 10:40:47 AM by Anomalocaris20

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#12972: Jul 12th 2015 at 10:46:36 AM

Yamcha was a bit more competent when Dragon Ball began, enough to actually be considered a threat and take down the great and mighty Ozaru (Even if Goku was a child) but that was Dragon Ball.

Dragon Ball Z however! It's kinda split. Between Raditz and Yamcha, sure Raditz was a threat... at first. Then he became a joke just like Yamcha.

Yamcha is so memetically weak they made a action figure out of his death scene.

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#12973: Jul 12th 2015 at 11:10:50 AM

No, Yamcha was basically useless back in Dragon Ball and he was certainly never a threat. If I recall correctly, it was Puar who cut of Goku's tail at the end of the Pilaf Saga. Also, when Yamcha first fought Goku, he couldn't even really win despite Goku not fighting back since he was too hungry.

The only fight against a named opponent that he won was when he fought See-Through and that was only because of Krillin's plan. He would have lost otherwise.

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#12974: Jul 12th 2015 at 11:28:11 AM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#12975: Jul 12th 2015 at 11:30:39 AM

Would Gohan's age even be a factor? I feel like children starting martial arts at that young an age is a common thing. Obviously not anywhere near Goku's training but I feel like doing anything just to give Goku an idea of what Gohan has would be normal.

Anyway, I won't say I don't see Chichi's point, because sometimes it does seem like she's genuinely worried about him, but I she had way more over the top, ridiculous, moments of opposing it, and I think flat out saying studying is more important than the world. I think these moments are supposed to be "funny" though and if I remember correctly, a lot of it comes from the anime. So I'm not sure how much should really be held against her.

Edit: As for the Yamcha, thing I already went into my problem with that but that's just going to be ignored.

edited 12th Jul '15 12:17:41 PM by LSBK


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