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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#11301: Apr 28th 2015 at 3:49:06 PM

They made some joke about his Screaming Warrior tendencies, but I don't know if they actually dislike him.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11302: Apr 28th 2015 at 3:56:47 PM

They (Or at least KaiserNeko) weren't fans of the second Cooler movie yet they abridged it all the same, so I imagine they'll just treat it like any other movie.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11303: Apr 28th 2015 at 4:05:14 PM

From what I've heard, Lani and Taka have an idea for Broly. Kaiser is worried because he knows, either way, they're not going to be able to please everyone.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11304: Apr 28th 2015 at 4:06:24 PM

I don't care how they write Broly, as long as Paragus is written like his Big Green counterpart.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11305: Apr 28th 2015 at 4:06:45 PM

They keep making fun of Broly in their Dragon Ball let's plays.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#11306: Apr 28th 2015 at 4:08:42 PM

Oh right, I forgot about those. Those are really funny.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#11307: Apr 28th 2015 at 5:40:20 PM

Vegeta not having skill: did anyone even see his second fight with Zarbon or his fight with Recoome? Vegeta didn't get strong by training: he got strong by fighting for his life. Sure, he might not have the technical skills that Goku gained (which was never a focus in this show; power is and always has been what's the focus), but he has the battle skills you gain from fighting for your life on a daily basis.

And Vegeta was not born obscenely powerful. He said he surpassed his father as a child, which means he got stronger than him... which means he wasn't born stronger than him.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#11308: Apr 28th 2015 at 5:43:19 PM

[up] The second fight with Zarbon? You mean where the two exchanged punches for a bit before Vegeta fisted him and blew his load all over Zarbon's insides?

I do believe Vegeta has always been described as a genius when it comes to battle.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11309: Apr 28th 2015 at 5:46:12 PM

Wasn't that Zarbon fight zenkai like the strongest ever?

Coulda sworn it was because he went from getting his ass kicked by fugly Zarbon to fighting Frieza

Oh really when?
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#11310: Apr 28th 2015 at 5:48:17 PM

No, the strongest zenkai would be either the one Goku got after Vegeta beat the shit out of Genyu (33x) or the one Cell got that somehow not only put him back in his Perfect form (which was bullshit) but also made him about as strong as SSJ2 Gohan.

Also, he got another zenkai after getting his ass kicked by Recoom.

edited 28th Apr '15 5:48:48 PM by Zelenal

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11311: Apr 28th 2015 at 5:51:42 PM

Didn't the Zenkai that Vegeta got from having a hole blown in his chest make him still weaker than Piccolo?

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#11312: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:02:55 PM

[up]x5 Presumably, his power level increased because that's what "growing up" does to most lifeforms, they get naturally stronger. Vegeta was born powerful in comparison to other babies, but I think Sayan culture would expect that number to further increase on the way to adulthood. Vegeta grew into the strongest on the planet before reaching adolescence, is all.

edited 28th Apr '15 6:03:14 PM by JonnasN

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#11313: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:04:46 PM

[up]And there's no reason to think that unless he was also born with a mastery of ki blasts. He had to have trained like everyone else. His gains may have been superior to others is all.


Vegeta goaded Zarbon into a fight and then used dirty tricks to get the upper hand on him and beat him. His tricks didn't work on Recoome because the difference between them was too great.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#11314: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:11:30 PM

Has there EVER been a fight in Dragonball where the person with the highest power level DIDN'T win? Heck, as far as I remember skill and technique only ever come into play at all when the two fighters are nearly the same power level. Unless you count people using the solar flare. Power levels may be bullshit, but they are still the most important thing in the world.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11315: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:11:57 PM

[up](x5) Hate to be that guy, but wasn't Cell still weaker than SSJ 2 Gohan, even with his zenkai? The only reason Cell was winning the beam struggle was because Gohan had lost half his power after saving Vegeta and breaking his arm.

The zenkai was still bull, though. They just HAD to bring back that stupid plot point, didn't they?

edited 28th Apr '15 6:12:13 PM by LOLypop1224

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11316: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:14:52 PM

I thought that Super Saiyan Gohan was about equal to Perfect Cell.

Super Saiyan 2 is like twice that.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11317: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:17:30 PM

[up][up][up]The first fight against Vegeta maybe?

Technically Goku was hilariously outclassed and only got as far as he did with multipliers. And they never really beat Vegeta so much as they did wear him down.

Like the dude tanked a spirit bomb. Which is admittedly not that big a feat but still.

Oh really when?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11318: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:19:18 PM

Did anyone actually win that fight?

I mean, Vegeta missed out on his objective the moment Nappa killed Piccolo.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#11319: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:22:18 PM

@Cruherrx: Maybe he was born with regular "elite" power level, but was good at raising it, I suppose that could happen.

Though Kakarot being immediately put into the lower class suggests that Saiyans can estimate what a baby's power will be when they grow up. Which in turn suggests very few babies deviate from the expected growth. I suppose Vegeta could be such a child, but he insists on saying Goku could never grow strong enough into surpassing an elite, showing he doesn't really believe in those exceptions.

But meh, I'm overthinking this. Vegeta was a prodigy by Saiyan standards, that's all that matters.

[up]They managed to repel Vegeta using tactics. That's a win for the earthlings.

(Also, Raditz and Kid Buu were defeated by beings with inferior power levels)

edited 28th Apr '15 6:24:40 PM by JonnasN

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#11320: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:31:48 PM

I thought Kid Buu wasn't as strong as Super Buu?

Oh really when?
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#11321: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:38:21 PM

That's what I hope Dragon Ball Super does. I want villains to be defeated by more than just a new powerup.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#11323: Apr 28th 2015 at 6:47:18 PM

I thought Kid Buu wasn't as strong as Super Buu?

He's not. Goku as a Super Saiyan 3 fought on par with Kid Buu, while he didn't even bother trying to challenge Super Buu (in the manga anyway) without trying fusing first.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#11324: Apr 28th 2015 at 7:24:54 PM

Yeah, I remember that the whole conceit of Kid Buu was that he was the weakest Buu powerwise but the most dangerous because of his personality.

edited 28th Apr '15 7:25:16 PM by Moth13

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11325: Apr 28th 2015 at 7:25:37 PM

I dunno about weakest, I mean he was still stronger than Fat Buu right?

I feel like he was.

Oh really when?

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