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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10901: Apr 13th 2015 at 10:39:15 AM

So when TFS gets around to doing Battle of Gods in thirty years, are they going to make fun of the line where it mentions Beerus killing the dinosaurs?

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#10902: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:24:54 AM

Didn't DBZA already say Popo killed the dinosaurs or something?

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#10903: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:29:08 AM

I don't not recall that being said anywhere.

Here's a question, one I probably already know the answer to: Who's stronger, Whis or Mr. Popo?

edited 13th Apr '15 11:29:56 AM by Zelenal

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#10905: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:58:13 AM

[up][up]Normally Whis, but in Abridged..... hmm.....

edited 13th Apr '15 11:58:23 AM by TheFarmboy

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#10906: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:58:19 AM

Look. He may have taught a dinosaur to ride a ball, but he's still just a bird.

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#10907: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:00:57 PM

Depends entirely on how they play the Buu Saga.

As I've mentioned before, the Over-The-Top Power of Mr. Popo seems like it's rooted in one filler scene from the Buu Saga, where Popo parries attacks from Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks simultaneously - a feat that makes everyone in the Saiyan and Namek Saga look like helpless babies by comparison.

The jokes about Popo having ultimate power have waned in the Cell Saga as the characters approach his level, and by the point of the Buu Saga, the cast should have surpassed Abridged Popo. Thus, I'm expecting to see the Ultimate Popo gag reach its conclusion when we finally catch up to that point in the Buu Saga where Buu kills Popo, similar to how the Kaio-What gag reached its conclusion with Frieza and the Kaio-Crap scene.

If so, Whis is clearly more powerful, but if they go the other way and BS Popo out of that scene in order to keep him as the strongest thing ever, then we can reasonably conclude that Abridged Popo has a battle power of Infinity and will never be surpassed by anything ever.

I think they'll play Popo's death straight for the dramatic shock value, though. The fact that they've eased off on "LOL, Popo trumps everything" jokes in the Cell Saga suggests so.

edited 13th Apr '15 12:01:39 PM by TobiasDrake

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#10908: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:17:19 PM

I wonder if we'll ever get a follow up on Raditz. I mean back when TFS started I was certain they'd bring him back in some "RADITZ IS THE STRONGEST!" joke, but nowadays they seem more...professional, let's call it.

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#10909: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:18:02 PM

But he's the weakest (Besides Yamcha).

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10910: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:19:35 PM

[up]well,Yamcha did kill a Raditz.he just blew up on him afterwards.

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#10911: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:21:28 PM

It seemed like they were going somewhere given the hilarious lampooning of the Yemmalock line, but as noted, they're more professional now so I don't expect that moment to ever come back.

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#10912: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:22:17 PM

I do hope we get another "Raditz is a unit of measurement/currency" joke down the line somewhere, though.

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#10913: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:29:36 PM

Well in the Buu Saga we're introduced to a new unit to measure energy, the Kili. Maybe we'll get a joke about the Kili to Raditz conversion.

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#10914: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:34:55 PM

Raditz is a pretty good unit of measurement. His 1,500 slots pretty nicely into most of the characters.

  • Despite what Abridged says, Nappa is merely 2 2/3 Raditzes, not 5. I suspect the Abridgers padded his battle power because that doesn't look so impressive after Krillin just blew up "the equivalent of 3 Raditzes".
  • Vegeta also padded his own battle power during his boast, actually being 12 Raditzes, not 15.
  • The Ginyus range from 20 to 40 Raditzes, with Captain Ginyu at an astonishing 80 Raditzes. Goku arrived on Namek with a battle power of 60 Raditzes.
  • In his First Form, Frieza is a mere 353 Raditzes, but his full power brings him to 80,000 Raditzes. Goku awakens from the healing tank with a mere 2,000 Raditzes, but as a Super Saiyan, his 100,000 Raditzes overtakes Frieza.
  • Krillin left Namek with 50 Raditzes.

You know, when you put it in Raditzes, it really shines a spotlight on how ridiculous Frieza's power inflation was, doesn't it?

edited 13th Apr '15 12:38:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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#10915: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:41:11 PM

So if Krillin killed the equivalent of 3 Raditzes and Nappa is a bit under that, does that mean that Krillin could have killed Nappa if he put all of that power into one blast?

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edited 13th Apr '15 12:48:27 PM by Zelenal

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#10916: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:55:48 PM

Plus Raditz sounds like a legit unit. Like Hertz.

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#10917: Apr 13th 2015 at 12:58:12 PM

Nappa's official powerlevel of 4000 seems way to low for a guy who eventually managed to not get pulverized by Goku (Until he went Kaio Ken)

Also I suppose Vegeta could be adding his Planetbusting move into calculations

edited 13th Apr '15 1:03:44 PM by Medigo03

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#10918: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:13:58 PM

[up][up][up] Probably not. Nappa's battle power isn't too far above those three Saibamen - 3,600 to 4,000 - but Nappa himself is a much better fighter than them.

Piccolo is 3,500, nearly as strong as those Saibamen and Nappa, but was still pretty much helpless against the bruiser, because Nappa's mental discipline and fighting skill was insurmountable and made all the difference.

Nappa, like Goku, knew how to do more with less, albeit not necessarily to the extremes Goku takes it. That his battle power is as low as it is despite his incredible performance is a testament to just how good a fighter Nappa was.

edited 13th Apr '15 1:16:13 PM by TobiasDrake

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#10919: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:42:05 PM

But this is DBZ

Powerlevels mean everything

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#10920: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:42:35 PM

I remember waaaay back when I first saw that scene, I thought they were going for a running gag of Raditz being on the run from the Hell Police or something. Like, random non-important characters would be replaced with Raditz in groucho glasses or something, who would zip away the moment someone was onto him.

But I guess they figured the Raditz running gag had run its course after the "worth X Raditz" jokes, and much like canon Raditz eventually no one cared.

edited 13th Apr '15 1:42:53 PM by KnownUnknown

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#10921: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:49:11 PM

But this is DBZ

Powerlevels mean everything

More than they should, not as much as you might think.

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#10922: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:51:50 PM

I figured they dropped the Raditz jokes when Vegeta3986 left, just like when Kami's jokes changed from being about how old he was.

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#10923: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:52:15 PM

If power levels mean nothing why can't Vegeta just wipe the floor with everyone?

Didn't Beerus say something to effect of Vegeta actually being the best fighter and having the best techniques but just plain not having enough raw power to beat him or say Goku?

edited 13th Apr '15 1:52:38 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
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#10924: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:54:11 PM

Which is ridiculous and stupid, because GOKU is the one who's been doing martial arts since he could walk

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#10925: Apr 13th 2015 at 1:54:57 PM

Seriously. That is a blatant inversion of their original dynamic, in which Vegeta is all about raw power but Goku does more with less.

Vegeta wastes huge sums of energy on GIGANTIC FLASHY MOVES. Goku is a martial artist, frequently controlling his ki and raising it in short bursts to maximize its longevity.

edited 13th Apr '15 1:55:58 PM by TobiasDrake

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