I lost it at them humming John Cena's theme song when Goku arrived.
If the Revival of F spoilers are anything to go by, I can see "Goku Securing the Kill" becoming a running gag.
I remember like a fanfic thing where Saiyans are actually stronger growing up based on the strength of the adult Saiyans around them and the other Saiyans their own age.
EDIT: Lani: “I love this next cut scene. It’s fantastic.”
...He says at the end of the last update of the week.
Dick.
EDIT: Oh my god they're being trained by Yamcha.
EDIT: ...Which they said earlier.
Heh. "Puppy dog punch."
edited 9th Apr '15 4:16:57 PM by unnoun
Goten and Trunks are stronger than Gohan was because Goku and Vegeta were really strong. It has nothing to do with genes though. When you make a baby its Ki has to come from somewhere, some from the mom, some from the dad. When Goten was conceived Goku was a super Saiyan, so Goten was able to transform really easy. I don't know how strong Vegeta was when Trunks was conceived but he was pretty close to turning super Saiyan
Re: Disrespect for Gohan.
This battle may actually be respecting him. It's a battle to beat the curse out of each of them, yeah? And Gohan's got the lowest health. That says to me that his curse is the weakest, and needs less hitting to fully break. Also, he's got dialogue suggesting he's Fighting from the Inside.
So, that battle? Much more respect to Gohan than Revival of F.
edited 9th Apr '15 5:45:27 PM by Enlong
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Did someone suggest that as Fridge Brilliance on the Xenoverse page?
But yeah, people wanted more Goku, so Gohan was tossed into the backburner, shame we didn't see how powerful Mystic was.
edited 9th Apr '15 5:50:35 PM by TheFarmboy
I got spurs, that jingle-jangle-jingle!We see how powerful Ultimate is just fine.
Gohan loses the ability to become a Super Saiyan and, in return, his Base battle power is raised to a point high enough to effortlessly curbstomp Super Buu - who is, in turn, stronger than Pure Buu, who even Super Saiyan 3 Goku could not overcome.
Super Saiyan 3 Goku < Pure Buu < Super Buu < Ultimate Gohan, who has no multipliers attached to his battle power.
This tells us that Ultimate Gohan's battle power is far above 400 Gokus. He got screwed out of the plot, but not for lack of power, at least until the movies rolled around..
edited 9th Apr '15 6:04:39 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Makes me wonder how the Buu arc would have played out if Toriyama stuck to his guns. No Goku returning means Vegeta doesn't turn Heel a final time. Presumably no Super Saiyan 3 either.
Strength wise, SS 3 Goku was actually on par with Pure Buu. The big deciding factor is Buu had infinite stamina.
edited 9th Apr '15 6:07:33 PM by Lionheart0
You mean that one wasn't editorial pressure?
So he just gave up on Gohan then? After bothering to build him up?
You better be wrong about this Saiga, cause if then, then Rob is disappointed. Very disappointed.
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While no one was looking, Vegeta stole 400 Gokus. That's right, 400! That's fourty tens! And that's terrible.
I'm pretty sure Toriyama was told by the execs after hearing fans wanting more Goku instead of Gohan.
edited 10th Apr '15 3:46:38 AM by TheFarmboy
I got spurs, that jingle-jangle-jingle!I seem to remember Toriyama mentioning that he never studied muscle anatomy.
He gave no shits.
edited 10th Apr '15 3:57:33 AM by unnoun
That's fair.
Point is this: Gohan went from being unimpressive to Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2, to outperforming Super Saiyan 3 Goku in base.
Goku and Vegeta were about on par with each other when Goku was a Super Saiyan 2 and Vegeta was Majin-boosted to Super Saiyan 2, so we can assume Goku and Vegeta are close to equal in battle power.
Vegeta, at the time he was disgustedly criticizing Gohan's performance against Dabura - who is equal to Perfect Cell - could only become a Super Saiyan 1. Thus, we can conclude that 100 Gohans is weaker than 50 Vegetas, or that Gohan is at most half of Vegeta and Goku's battle power.
After getting his power unlocked by the Old Kai, Gohan gets locked out of Super Saiyan transformations, but his Base power is boosted to the point that he is greater than 400 Gokus.
Which means the Ultimate boost permanently increased Gohan's battle power by at least 800x.
It should be noted that there is no guarantee it would do that for others; Krillin, for example, probably wouldn't rise to 60 million after getting his power unlocked by Old Kai, because it's not a static multiplier but a potential unlock, entirely subject to what potential the person receiving it has. Still, that's damn impressive.
edited 10th Apr '15 8:12:05 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Psh.
MYSTIC KRILLIN STRONKEST THERE IS.
edited 10th Apr '15 8:30:45 AM by wanderlustwarrior
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Uh, no. Vegeta was perfectly capable of becoming Super Saiyan 2 by the Buu saga. He was still weaker than Super Saiyan 2 Goku though, hence the Majin boost.
On an unrelated note, spoilers for Resurrection of F
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edited 10th Apr '15 8:41:06 AM by Dragon_Ranger

When you hit a boss and they don't stagger immediately like any other character would.