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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10376: Mar 20th 2015 at 4:33:45 PM

dunno,Broly being reduced to a mud monster after all that was kinda hilarious.yeah,it's a clone,but it's still Broly.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#10377: Mar 20th 2015 at 4:37:46 PM

[up][up] I heard 18 had an increased role in that movie. Does that mean anything?

Oh God! Natural light!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10378: Mar 20th 2015 at 4:39:13 PM

Vegeta used Hellzone Grenade in filler, against Gohan-Boo.

But, I mean, yeah, how long ago did Toriyama write this stuff, again? One feels like there some be some kind of charter of limitations on this sort of thing- once 15+ years have passed, it could be argued that there's no really strong reason the original author should know the series any better than particularly dedicated fans. unnoun knows what I'm talking about.

Well, Toriyama has said that he doesn't remember things well, and that Naho Ooishi (author of Dragon Ball SD and Episode of Bardock) knows more about the series than him.

Post Battle of Gods, he's also said:

First, a word of warning: I am a considerably arbitrary creator, so I’ve imagined what happens after for these three for the first time just now. The possibility that I have made mistakes about the characters’ backgrounds is great. Proceed with caution.

admitting the new tidbits could be mistakes.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10379: Mar 20th 2015 at 4:39:21 PM

No. Especially not in Bio-Broly.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10380: Mar 20th 2015 at 4:40:19 PM

mostly blackmailing assisting Satan,with surviving winning the battle.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#10381: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:00:06 PM

Speaking of Arlia, is there any way Gero could have gotten his hands on Arlian DNA? Because I can't think of any other reason why Cell is a giant bug person.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10382: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:01:00 PM

It's cause Gero/Gero's computer stuck a bunch of other lifeforms in Cell's DNA, including bugs.

edited 20th Mar '15 5:01:09 PM by Saiga

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#10383: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:01:52 PM

Vegeta stole Hellzone Grenade too?

What other techniques did he take? I know he's got Krillin's Destructo Disk.

Oh really when?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10384: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:01:54 PM

...Why?

[up] Goku doesn't know a single technique he didn't take from someone else, except the Dragon Fist.

edited 20th Mar '15 5:02:26 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10385: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:07:26 PM

He can't really steal what he hasn't seen. It's just something anyone could logically do with fine enough ki control.

[up] To give Cell the ability of metamorphosis? He did shed his skin like a Cicada when he grew to a certain age.

Also that depends on how you define a technique.

edited 20th Mar '15 5:09:09 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10386: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:10:48 PM

And Rock Paper Scissors.

Forgot that one. He hasn't used it since he was a kid.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10387: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:12:09 PM

Nope, that was Granpa Gohan's technique.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#10388: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:13:30 PM

I loved that bit when he fought Roshi and tricked him with it.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10389: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:13:33 PM

When watching the more recent DBZ stuff I do get the impression Toriyama isn't in the same mindset as he was back in the day, like he came back to the old project much later and decided the tone wasn't quite what he wanted to continue with, so he tweaked it a bit.

@The Cell motivation conversation that I totally missed:

Now that I think about it, "I want to be the strongest guy and/or fight the strongest guy, and I'm willing to kill as many innocent people as I decide are necessary along the way" is a pretty common but super flat shounen villain motivation, isn't it?

Some tack a "turns out I'm morally conflicted and want someone to kill me" onto it, but it turns out to be more or less the same.

edited 20th Mar '15 5:14:14 PM by KnownUnknown

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10390: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:13:57 PM

Right.

Dragon Fist it is then.

...Also, why would Gero or his computer want Cell to metamorphosis?

Also, Frieza can do that already.

He can't shed his skin, I guess, but.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10391: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:16:12 PM

Probably just the way he planned out Cell's lifecycle to get the result he wanted. Making a giant biological mashup must've been hard to get working right.

Also, maybe he planned on having Cell shed his skin so Gero could roll around inside it, loving it.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10392: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:18:00 PM

maybe Gero just found bugs cool.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10393: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:18:42 PM

Hey, don't judge man. Us scientists have needs too.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10394: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:22:59 PM

would be cool if the bonus Earthling life forms were what allowed him to regenerate from self destruction.i think there are some animals that can pull it off,shooorta.veeeeery shorta.

i liked bugs too.as long as they don't fall on my head suddenly, we're cool.usually.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#10395: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:26:44 PM

Cell flat out planned to destroy the planet, then every other planet after he got the Instant Transmission. Before that, he's made from the cells of the most violent race out there, and has the cells of the two guys that brutally ruled the galaxy, and we know his personality is an amalgamation of his various parts. He's worse than Vegeta because he's Vegeta + Frieza + King Cold.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10396: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:29:44 PM

you'd think he'd be more chilled with the last two.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10397: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:30:13 PM

Nah, that'd be their grandpa.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#10398: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:34:48 PM

Abridged Chilled reminded me more of Mickey Mouse.probably cause i've heard his voice more than Ms.Piggy.

so,is Cell's eating people thingy perharps based on Namekian fusion?

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#10399: Mar 20th 2015 at 5:53:22 PM

That, I think, was just Gero being unnecessarily creepy.

...why didn't he build Cell to be Perfect from the get go?

Also, how is it that anyone managed to begin to tire him out, when he had 2 infinite ki engines at that point?

edited 20th Mar '15 5:54:31 PM by Enlong

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CobraPrime Sharknado Warning from Canada Since: Dec, 1969 Relationship Status: Robosexual
Sharknado Warning
#10400: Mar 20th 2015 at 6:07:33 PM

Gero didn't build cell. He abandonned the project coz it was too slow, his computer did. Presumably it didn't have access to whatever Cell needs from 17 and 18


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