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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10226: Mar 19th 2015 at 12:31:12 PM

Seems legit. He was kind of a dick like that.

Hercule is still pretty damn strong considering his lack of ki knowledge. He takes a lot of punishment.

And, apparently, Towa is able to power him up to being stronger than Full-Power Super Saiyan Goku without popping him like an especially gross zit, so. If he ever did learn how to use ki he could legitimately be a force to be reckoned with.

Talking about Xenoverse 14.

Also, History of Trunks came out.

edited 19th Mar '15 12:32:19 PM by unnoun

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#10227: Mar 19th 2015 at 12:34:09 PM

I can't imagine a Ki-Using Hercule being any more stronger than Krillin.

edited 19th Mar '15 12:34:23 PM by Lionheart0

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10228: Mar 19th 2015 at 12:35:52 PM

I can.

And not just because in Xenoverse, it actually happens.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#10229: Mar 19th 2015 at 12:51:11 PM

Loved the History of Trunks special. Also how Gohan built his training on Piccolo's

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#10230: Mar 19th 2015 at 12:52:03 PM

Well, Towa's magic is a fairly strong factor in that. She apparently was juicing him up more than any other target

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10231: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:01:59 PM

I'm pretty sure Saiga called bullshit on that thing that Toriyama revealed about Hercule, though I do think it's interesting.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10232: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:16:20 PM

It would essentially turn Hercule's "it's a trick" campaign into the DBZ version of J. Jonah Jameson, which is kind of funny.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10233: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:21:20 PM

What Toriyama said didn't involve ki at all. That person who claimed Satan could use ki but didn't because of what happened to their mentor was either joking or lying. Or mislead, I guess.

Toriyama just said that Tao Pai Pai killed his mentor which made him swear not to challenge people who looked strong or that he didn't know. You may recognise this as being completely contradictory to how Satan actually behaves.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10234: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:22:45 PM

Also, in that part Kieran mentions "maybe they could do the Trunks special since that deals with time" and I'm pretty sure that's actually in Xenoverse sorta.

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#10235: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:32:58 PM

it is, sorta. One mission deals with 17 and 18 attacking Trunks before he goes back in time

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#10236: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:36:20 PM

[up] They also cause Cell to be able to absorb 17 and 18 before Trunks return to the future.

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#10237: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:43:31 PM

The Trunks special made me realise Future Gohan has an even GREATER reason to hate his father. He dies for good, and then the androids attack. Gohan would basically associate Goku being gone with bad stuff happening, (because, let's face it, that's what happens).

I feel like the "Goku is a bad father" jokes are going to reach a climax at the Cell Games, and then they'll stop a bit after the Buu Saga. After all, it's a bit mean-spirited to start criticising people who are dead.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10238: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:46:11 PM

It'd be amusing to have Goten be the cheerful son who idolizes his father no matter what, whereas Gohan is a great deal more jaded.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10239: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:47:26 PM

You know, in the abridged version, Goku thought Piccolo was going to give him a signal.

So his first death was very much not something that was actually his fault.

...Things that happened after that though.

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#10240: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:48:13 PM

They never shied away from mocking Goku for being a bad father while (or, indeed, for) being dead in the past. Shall we remember the jokes about Piccolo basically being Gohan's dad?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10241: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:53:14 PM

Good ol' physical abuse.

edited 19th Mar '15 1:53:28 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10242: Mar 19th 2015 at 1:59:48 PM

Piccolo's kinda hurt Gohan physically more than Goku has.

...And I found it really sweet how in Xenoverse, Goku got out of the healing pod to save Gohan from Frieza.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10243: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:01:27 PM

Actually, I can totally jive with Hercule challenging Cell despite the so called don't fight people stronger than him claim.

He constantly said Cell was using tricks and shit right? He assumed Cell was a weakling who had to plant bombs and shit to make people think he was stronger than he really was.

Then he got educated on the matter.

I too am wincing at the bad father jokes. I am expecting them to apex at the Cell games, and maybe they'll start redeeming Goku for that.

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#10244: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:03:38 PM

I never had a problem with the Goku=Bad father jokes.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10245: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:04:54 PM

[up][up][up] yeah that's what I meant. Sorry, that was way too unclear on my part.

[up][up] it's not just the strength thing, but the whole "don't challenge people I don't know" thing. He didn't know Cell.

edited 19th Mar '15 2:05:34 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10246: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:05:24 PM

I mean.

If, as GT indicated, Goku was gone for years training Uub then holy shit wow.

I would at least hope that he'd use Instant Transmission to go back home somewhat regularly.

If he started living at Uub's village that'd be fucked up. They're poor as hell and can barely manage to feed themselves. Having to keep a Saiyan as a house-guest would be monstrous and cruel.

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#10247: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:07:20 PM

I actually do think Goten is gonna be the one who idolizes his Dad while Gohan is gonna be like "yeeaaa...."

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10248: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:07:30 PM

Gt should be in continuity with the anime where he points out he can teleport.

But then GT says he just ditched them.

Also, Satan is sponsoring the village. That would take care of the poorness, and we at least see Oob is eating well.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10249: Mar 19th 2015 at 2:08:12 PM

"Sponsoring the village" =/= "can feed Goku."

Chi Chi can seemingly just barely afford to do that.

Between Goku, Goten, Gohan, and probably Pan, the food bill for the Son households has got to be.

I mean, dang.

edited 19th Mar '15 2:10:44 PM by unnoun

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