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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10076: Mar 7th 2015 at 5:41:59 PM

No, not literally. As unnoun said, it's an anagram of the Japanese term for vegetable (yasai). It doesn't have any actual meaning.

@Rin I wouldn't want that. It's simply not feasible to have that many characters and have each one be fleshed out.

I prefer the game to focus on a smaller roster of characters and instead make those characters super indepth. Not leaving out forms etc.

Hypothetically, if there was infinite time and budget devoted to it, then sure. Only then.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#10077: Mar 7th 2015 at 5:47:23 PM

I imagine Tokitoki town is somewhere outside of time.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10078: Mar 7th 2015 at 5:48:18 PM

I had assumed it existed in its own realm, like the Kaioshin planet. The time vault and time nest were probably there before the city was.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10079: Mar 7th 2015 at 5:49:05 PM

I mean, there was something rather delightful about Tenkaichi 3's sheer ridiculous number of characters. It was unbalanced as fuck, but there was still a charm to it, I thought.

Kaiser no.

I imagine Tokitoki town is somewhere outside of time.

...Then what's the "Age 850" caption supposed to mean?

I mean, if anything it'd be from somewhere very much inside of time. At the center of it. The heart.

edited 7th Mar '15 5:50:40 PM by unnoun

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#10080: Mar 7th 2015 at 5:55:23 PM

Maybe Tokitoki Town is eternally in Age 850.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10081: Mar 7th 2015 at 6:06:36 PM

I like the large number of characters because I like playing out my own stories with the games. More characters and stages means more freedom to do that.

I just find the cost of it to be too high, especially for Dimps. Dimps have always produced really good combat and character variation, I don't want to see them stray from that.

I would be completely fine with them bringing Spike back to make games that focus on roster and stage size, maybe if they alternated between the two they could produce games for both niches while also giving each developer more time to focus on their games.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#10082: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:31:17 PM

Was watching DBZ Kai on Toonami like 5 seconds ago and I was wondering.

What's Vegeta's power level in Great Ape form?

He said it increased his power tenfold and if I remember right he was like 18,000 at the time so that would put him at around 180k unless he was exaggerating.

Oh really when?
minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#10083: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:32:18 PM

Wait... Saiyan-jin is Vegetable people? Does it mean that the special where Goku's father discovers his race in their natal form is actually foreshadowed...?

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#10084: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:38:38 PM

Well. The spirit bomb ain't nothin' ta fuck wit.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10085: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:41:18 PM

[up][up][up] If he transforms naturally, from the moon, he would be at 180,000. The power ball he uses always cuts his battle power, and he was injured in the fight with Goku. Goku still said a Kaio-ken x5 wouldn't be enough, so he was over 40,000.

A lot of video games ignore this and say he was still at 180,000 but the very first game to use battle powers gave his weakened Ozaru state a battle pwer of 70,000.

edited 7th Mar '15 9:41:31 PM by Saiga

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#10086: Mar 7th 2015 at 9:44:48 PM

Yeah, you need to take into account the extreme (for pre-Namek fights) amount of energy that the fake moon ball requires.

edited 7th Mar '15 9:45:09 PM by Enlong

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#10087: Mar 7th 2015 at 11:42:07 PM

@KarkatTheDalek

Alrigh. So, the last few chapters of Bravely Default:

There's really no reason the party should have chosen to not break a crystal after the nature of the betrayal was spelled out to them. A scene in the Holy Pillar actually does give a reason, where they say (paraphrasing) that they know there is a real enemy, the "source of all this darkness", that will arrive when the pattern counts down.

This s all well and good, but here's the thing. They do not know that. They learn that, but only in the short ending, which is not part of the full ending. not only that, but the big reveal scene in chapter 8 has them go back to not knowing.

It's just kind of a mess of inconsistent motivations and knowledge.

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#10088: Mar 8th 2015 at 3:26:50 AM

I have yet to see any Xenoverse characters based off Chrono Trigger. I'm disappointed by that.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10089: Mar 8th 2015 at 8:18:05 AM

@Saiga: That's be okay, but I'm kinda tired of Spike games. Dimps knows quality, so I'd want them to take all the time in the world to work on such a thing. The less rushing, the more awesoming.

edited 8th Mar '15 8:18:33 AM by Rinsankajugin

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#10090: Mar 8th 2015 at 8:40:59 AM

When I did a character in Ultimate Tenkaichi I named him "Korin". Like "Corn".

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#10091: Mar 8th 2015 at 11:51:40 AM

Isn't Korin the talking cat that lives with Yajirobe and grows Senzu beans?

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#10093: Mar 8th 2015 at 1:18:23 PM

Oh, just realized Great Ape Vegeta would still be stronger than Ginyu, and for all he knew second only to Freeza that way.

Kinda explains the confidence.

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#10094: Mar 8th 2015 at 1:47:53 PM

Yep. Without the battle damage he took prior to using the False Moon and whatever power subtraction the False Moon inflicted on him - I don't remember that element, but Saiga said it, so I assume it's true - Oozaru Vegeta's battle power would be equivalent to Goku's arrival on Namek plus the standard Kaioken. Also of interest:

  • Oozaru Nappa's battle power would be on the low end of a Ginyu.
  • Oozaru Raditz's battle power would be weaker than Base Vegeta.
  • Oozaru Gohan's battle power was barely stronger than Goku's base, which means Vegeta actually could have handled the kid if he wasn't so thoroughly trashed by the battle that he was running entirely on fumes at this point.

edited 8th Mar '15 1:48:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10095: Mar 8th 2015 at 1:54:27 PM

Well that assumes 981 was Gohan's full power, but Kuririn and Piccolo were suppressed at the time of those readings so I think he would be as well.

At the very start if the Namek arc he was said to be around 1500. I think that would have been his full power in the Saiyan arc, unless he got a tiny Zenkai.

Either way, yeah, Vegeta would have been able to handle him if not for his exhaustion and damage as he said himself.

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#10096: Mar 8th 2015 at 1:56:33 PM

Man poor Raditz. First he gets stood up by some chia pets and even his giant monkey form can't do anything.

Oh really when?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10097: Mar 8th 2015 at 2:01:29 PM

unless he got a tiny Zenkai

Gohan had the shit beaten out of him by Nappa, and got a Senzu bean, then he got the shit beaten out of him by Vegeta, and a trip to the hospital.

He probably got like two Zenkais out of the whole incident.

Saiga said it, so I assume it's true

Death to all popes.

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#10098: Mar 8th 2015 at 2:03:32 PM

@Enlong: I see. Maybe if they had done something along the lines of Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors, and its multiple endings. Have you ever played that game?

edited 8th Mar '15 2:12:47 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10099: Mar 8th 2015 at 2:06:21 PM

[up][up] but the difference is so tiny, I'm assuming he just didn't qualify.

981 should be a suppressed level. So any Zenkai would be negligible if there was one.

And Goku apparently went through clinical death without getting one.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10100: Mar 8th 2015 at 2:06:31 PM

Infallibility should never be allowed to exist.

And Goku apparently went through clinical death without getting one.

...When Piccolo Special Beam Cannon'd him?

edited 8th Mar '15 2:07:21 PM by unnoun


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