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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#10001: Mar 6th 2015 at 1:16:57 AM

Where did those dance off gifs come from?

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#10002: Mar 6th 2015 at 1:39:18 AM

No idea, they just popped up on my dashboard earlier.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#10003: Mar 6th 2015 at 2:24:33 AM

From these stylish commercials:

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10005: Mar 6th 2015 at 3:11:21 AM

"X was great/funny/interesting/met a need/filled a necessary plot function we just agreed was necessary and would have improved things." "X was filler."

Okay what the actual fuck.

That is not just what happened. Cru was addressing a potential contradiction to what he just said, not shooting down someone talking about something they enjoyed.

Most of the time "X is filler" comes up, it's because someone is asking about something that is contradictory.

I'm noticing a common sequence of you being completely inaccurate about how things actually happen. I hope this response you mentioned is silence, because that would be the only reasonable thing to come from you.

Besides, the game uses movie stuff so it's clearly taking the filler into account.

Movies are treated differently to filler. Spike have said that they won't use filler, which is why the Spice Boys never made it into any of the Tenkaichi rosters despite the demand. Some other devs have, though, like Monolith, but I don't remember Dimps doing so outside of shout-outs.

Okay, now you're just fucking with me, Toriyama.

Welcome to anything he's said in recent interviews.

I have to say, Towa's motivations are more than a little stupid.

There's a reason for that. SPOILER: That's not her motivation at all.

edited 6th Mar '15 3:12:20 AM by Saiga

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#10006: Mar 6th 2015 at 3:28:24 AM

Except for when than fights dragging out a tad too much (either because the fighters aren't doing anything, or because they get long flashbacks, or whatever else), I'd say Dragon Ball filler is overall pretty good. It's silly, and silly is good for Dragon Ball.

Plus, it's always cool to see episodes with guys like Tao Pai Pai. The episode where Goku stumbles upon him before the Cell games is a personal favourite.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10007: Mar 6th 2015 at 3:39:14 AM

That is not just what happened. Cru was addressing a potential contradiction to what he just said, not shooting down someone talking about something they enjoyed.

We were just talking about Ginyu not doing anything before that though.

I'm noticing a common sequence of you being completely inaccurate about how things actually happen. I hope this response you mentioned is silence, because that would be the only reasonable thing to come from you.

Oh, hey there Mr. Kettle, name's Pot. Have we met?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10008: Mar 6th 2015 at 3:47:05 AM

Lion said Ginyu dicked around, Cru said he did not, Lion gave examples that Cru pointed out were filler.

Absolutely nothing like what you said. No-one even commented on the quality or necessity of it until after he responded.

Can't see where you're coming from because my recollection isn't inaccurate at all.

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#10009: Mar 6th 2015 at 4:37:14 AM

I like the anime more than the manga, but to say the manga sucks will never fly with me. The anime introduces a lot of nonsensical shiz that only contradicts itself later. It doesn't hold a candle to the manga when it comes to the quality of storytelling, bro.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10010: Mar 6th 2015 at 5:40:30 AM

Okay what the actual fuck.

That is not just what happened. Cru was addressing a potential contradiction to what he just said, not shooting down someone talking about something they enjoyed.

Most of the time "X is filler" comes up, it's because someone is asking about something that is contradictory.

I'm noticing a common sequence of you being completely inaccurate about how things actually happen. I hope this response you mentioned is silence, because that would be the only reasonable thing to come from you.

I've noticed this odd need to defend Filler in every anime fandom that has it, as if people are attacking it just for saying it's Filler. I don't get why they do it.

edited 6th Mar '15 5:44:47 AM by VeryMelon

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#10011: Mar 6th 2015 at 7:57:56 AM

Yes, five episodes of Goku powering up to Super Saiyan is so not filler. Pfft.

Also, caught up to them on the DBX playthrough on their website. Their fights with Ginyu are hilarious XD

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#10012: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:06:07 AM

They convinced me to get Xenoverse. I'm playing as an albino Namekian. The last of his kind, probably.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10013: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:10:51 AM

TFS Plays: Dragonball Xenoverse is now on Youtube for people that have problems with TeamFourStar's site.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10014: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:13:38 AM

[up] As one of those people, thank you!

[up][up] What platform are you playing on?

Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#10015: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:19:41 AM

It's times like this I wish I had one of the current consoles. I also don't have a PC; all I have is a laptop that is several years old.

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#10016: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:27:26 AM

[up][up] PS 3.

It's pretty fun so far. That said, Team Four Star really needs to do more Parallel Quests to make the main story easier to clear.

Plus, it'll be fun if they get a mentor. Mine is Piccolo, obviously enough.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10017: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:28:53 AM

Lion said Ginyu dicked around, Cru said he did not, Lion gave examples that Cru pointed out were filler.

Absolutely nothing like what you said. No-one even commented on the quality or necessity of it until after he responded.

I suppose we interpreted the exchange differently.

The anime introduces a lot of nonsensical shiz that only contradicts itself later. It doesn't hold a candle to the manga when it comes to the quality of storytelling, bro.

I mean.

We're talking about the series that has a rabbit taken to the moon to make toys by a character who is later established to need to breath oxygen.

We have a smelly character defeated by one of the protagonists not being drawn with a nose.

We have basically all of the Android-Cell arc, where Freiza comes back then is beaten by the son of two characters who have barely interacted from the future, then there's an old guy and a clown then two teenagers and their new big friend and a robot bug clone thing and. Yeah.

And I don't think contradictions are necessarily a storytelling flaw.

Stories are not made better by being internally consistent. A story isn't a list or a straight line, it's a web of allusions and symbols and representations and foreshadowing and resolution. With stories it's important that we be able to guess what happens next, to form conclusions and expectations, to be able to understand what we're being told. Now, contradictions can create a problem with this, by making our conclusions faulty. But they aren't a problem in and of themselves.

I've noticed this odd need to defend Filler in every anime fandom that has it, as if people are attacking it just for saying it's Filler. I don't get why they do it.

I'm a bit irritated by some of the elitism involved.

Yes, five episodes of Goku powering up to Super Saiyan is so not filler. Pfft.

...Yeah, the main problems with Dragon Ball's filler are a few instances of character exaggeration and the atrocities that are inflicted on the pacing.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10018: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:31:49 AM

[up][up] Aww, need more Steam buddies for when I get my new PC. Also, on mentors, I've heard that Cell has the most hilarious dialogue so I'm eager to get to him.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#10019: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:32:47 AM

I need time to play the game at some point. sad

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#10020: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:32:59 AM

The manga is a very different animal than the anime. A lot of what people think about when they think about Dragon Ball is from the anime, both the good and the bad. The anime added a lot of filler material, some of which changes the plot and characters, some of which is harmless, but it's generally the most entertaining part because it distracts from the shitty, drawn-out main story - while also contributing to why the main story is shitty and needlessly drawn out.

Which is because the anime drew out the main story and fluffed it to shit. The actual plot in the manga is much more concise, the action quicker and more intense, and the pacing much more smooth. The manga is the definitive place to go for the core story; the anime is the best place to go if you just want to watch the characters faff around.

edited 6th Mar '15 8:35:26 AM by TobiasDrake

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#10021: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:38:59 AM

Yeah, sorry. I'd have gotten it on steam, but there's no freaking way my 2008 Mac Book would be able to handle Xenoverse. Maybe I'll get it on Steam when I get a nice desktop.

And yeah, I've heard good things about Cell. I'll stick with Piccolo at least until I learn the Special Beam Cannon, though.

Which will be hilarious to use, since I'm using the Nappa voice.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10022: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:42:54 AM

Not going for Steam probably would've been the best choice for me as well. 12 frames per second for the win.[lol]

I'm with Vegeta as my mentor because... I have no idea why. I know Vegeta will be a ki-type character and I made a melee character. Then again aside from Kuririn's first training giving me a melee combo (which is actually useful and stylish) it appears every mentor available is a ki type.

Actually the whole game seems to heavily favour ki-types, at least for the first playthrough. I've unlocked way more ki Supers, first Ultimate is a ki-type regardless of the style you pick, and damn near all the clothes boost ki-stats and lower melee ones. It's made me feel I made the wrong choice.

I picked what might be the worst voice. Since my first character was female, I chose voice 3 which sounded the best from what I've heard of the voice videos on youtube... but that didn't include battle grunts, and she has an absolutely annoying grunt... thing... on the start of any light attack combo.

Which means I hear that sound a lot.

edited 6th Mar '15 8:44:26 AM by Saiga

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#10023: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:48:03 AM

It's actually kind of funny, the swedish version of the manga is 42 volumes long(with Raditz showing up a few chapters into volume 17) and I just checked how many panels it takes for Goku to go SS from the moment Krillin explodes. It's 10 panels(5 of which are reactions to the death and one being Frieza taunting). In total it's 1 and a half page.

Edit: Also I had forgotten that the swedish version translated his name as Freezer.

edited 6th Mar '15 8:49:25 AM by LordofLore

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#10024: Mar 6th 2015 at 8:53:21 AM

42 volumes is the same as the Japanese tankobon release and the combined "Dragon Ball" / "Dragon Ball Z" release done by Viz.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10025: Mar 6th 2015 at 9:01:44 AM

I never realized Xenoverse was on the PS 3. I should look into getting it when I have the money.


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