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OrionAurora Constellation from Andromeda Galaxy Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Constellation
#9851: Mar 2nd 2015 at 11:33:23 AM

HEY!

We are all made of star stuff. Very, very weird star stuff.
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#9852: Mar 2nd 2015 at 11:51:35 AM

The language of Toki-Toki City is so great.

Ziko: Vegeta?

Dumplin: ...

Ziko: Vegeta.

Dumplin: ...

Ziko: Vegeta!

Trunks: HEY!

Ziko: ...

Dumplin: ...

Ziko: Vegeta.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#9853: Mar 2nd 2015 at 1:12:21 PM

@Tobias Drake: You seem to be under the impression that I'm saying that Shonen manga should not have women playing the same roles. Sorry if that's the impression I caused, as I'm definitely an advocate that Pan should've been a better character in GT, or any other material. I was just saying that giving her a meaningless power-up at the end of the series is bad writing, because GT did exactly that with Uub: giving him a power-up just so he could lose faster. We'll agree to disagree about Goten and Trunks, though, you think that was meaningless, I don't.

And if "little girl" is bad phrasing, then "toddler" it'll be. The main point of that sentence was the fact that she's already beating up adults, ergo, she'll continue doing what her relatives did.

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#9854: Mar 2nd 2015 at 1:38:44 PM

No, the shonen line wasn't aimed at you. It's something Cruherrx said earlier in his argument with unnoun, basically to the effect of, "There aren't a lot of good female characters because it's shonen, and shonen is aimed at young boys, and young boys think girls are icky, so female characters shouldn't really be in shonen much.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#9855: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:03:10 PM

[up]Oh wow, complete misrepresentation there.

What I said was if you're looking for gender diversity and that kind of stuff in shonen, you're looking in the wrong place because they aim for a specific demographic and follow conventions that have worked since their inception.

Also, there's years' worth of studies showing that 5-12 year olds don't like to associate with the other gender.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#9856: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:08:57 PM

Also, there's years' worth of studies showing that 5-12 year olds don't like to associate with the other gender.

Likely in part because the media aimed at them is so lacking in opposite gender representation.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#9858: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:30:43 PM

Haven't had time to watch it yet. Has Dumplin gone on to another time-fight? Has he yet learned any super moves to say in Nappa's voice?

I have a message from another time...
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9859: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:46:14 PM

He got a scouter and then he took all his clothes off.

That's all I've seen so far.

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Court Dragon
#9860: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:49:26 PM

Ah, so nudity makes you stronger in Toki Toki Town.

I have a message from another time...
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#9861: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:55:39 PM

Likely in part because the media aimed at them is so lacking in opposite gender representation.

The chicken or the egg?

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9862: Mar 2nd 2015 at 2:58:44 PM

...Oh shit.

Great Ape!Nappa.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#9863: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:06:18 PM

I've seen people say Great Monkey Vegeta (srsly, he has a tail so he ain't an ape) is a bitch and a half to fight. I didn't have much trouble with him, but maybe Dumplin' will.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#9864: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:10:16 PM

Is the game any good? I haven't played a DBZ game since Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and I'm missing those a lot.

Oh really when?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9865: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:13:02 PM

I think it's one of the better ones.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#9866: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:13:42 PM

What's it play like? And what's it about?

I haven't really read much on it.

Oh really when?
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#9867: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:18:15 PM

Is this the part where we throw trailers at him or the part where we calmly explain things?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#9868: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:30:04 PM

That's what I figured it was about. Is the gameplay nice though?

Cause if it is I might just have to pick it up.

Oh really when?
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#9869: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:30:59 PM

Gameplay's pretty great.

Not sure what deets you really want though.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#9870: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:31:36 PM

Well the last games I played were the Budokai ones on the PS 2, what's it like in comparison to those I guess is my question.

Oh really when?
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#9871: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:35:01 PM

They feel closer to Budokai 3 than they do the Tenkaichi ones, in all honesty. Buuuuuuut these feel like genuine three-dimension fights, where flight is a crucial part of gameplay. Because of this, you can't just spam energy blasts and button mash your way to wins. For some missions I wish I could though, because keeping Gohan and Krillin alive ain't easy.


This was linked in the Dragonball thread. Frieza's new form from Fukkatsu no F.

edited 2nd Mar '15 3:36:05 PM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#9872: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:35:59 PM

Hmmm, I liked the Tenkaichi ones more.

Still, maybe I'll pick it up if I've got some money floating around, it sounds fun.

Oh really when?
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#9873: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:37:12 PM

[up]It so is.

"Hey, I'm gonna play Xenoverse for a few minutes and then get back to my 12-page paper."

-2 days of near non-stop Xenoverse later-

"Well fuck."

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#9874: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:59:02 PM

Look up the psychological profiles of 10 year old boys. From the ages of 5-12, boys play with other boys and think girls are gross. I, at that age, scoffed at programs with girls as mains, if memory serves.

So change that. We must do our best to discourage such behavior, as it ends up doing a great deal of harm. Besides, I don't know what today's youth is like in this regard - it's possible that they're more accepting in this regard. My point is, the reason that you were like this wasn't due to any inherent traits, but due to learned behaviors - if we can have more Badass, adventure-loving heroines in media targeted at young boys, maybe these attitudes will become less prominent over time.

To be honest, if a ten year old boy told me that girls were gross, the first thing I'd do is ask him why he thought that.

I can't see how Goku or Vegeta's genders make the series better or worse, sorry.

I never said Goku or Vegeta. But I don't see why we couldn't have had other Saiyans who were female, or made one of their kids who were actually featured in the series a girl. I mean, make Trunks a girl. Why the hell not? Can you honestly tell me that would harm the series if Trunks had been a girl from the beginning? I mean, people probably wouldn't be thrilled to see Vegeta smack his daughter around, but it's not like that's absolutely necessary to the story either.

Oh God! Natural light!
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#9875: Mar 2nd 2015 at 3:59:54 PM

Nah, keep Trunks as is but make Goten a girl.

Oh really when?

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