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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9726: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:22:26 PM

I think it's kinda funny how he just sorta becomes a frog and stays on Earth for the rest of his life.

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#9727: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:22:27 PM

Well, Ginyu seems to be loyal, if anything. He doesn't seem like the coup type. And perhaps Freeza could have seen it coming and was strong enough to stop it from happening.

edited 28th Feb '15 4:22:54 PM by LOLypop1224

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#9728: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:35:20 PM

Freeza hired him, so I'm pretty sure he knows Ginyu's specialty. I imagine part of the contract was "If you even think of saying the word 'change' around me, you're dead".

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9729: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:40:09 PM

[up]I could picture that actually.

That and maybe Ginyu being genuinely loyal.

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#9730: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:43:06 PM

And with all of Freeza's transformations, who knows if Ginyu would be able to control his power?

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#9731: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:43:07 PM

Once Goku knew about it, he could intervene both with an injured body and throwing a frog. It doesn't appear to be difficult to avoid, but simply not expecting it catches people off-guard.

[up] There's also that. He couldn't even handle Goku's body properly, I doubt he'd be able to transform and the fact that Freeza is never in his true form would probably screw Ginyu over.

edited 28th Feb '15 4:44:09 PM by Saiga

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#9732: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:45:04 PM

I think it's kinda funny how he just sorta becomes a frog and stays on Earth for the rest of his life.

To my knowledge, that's filler-only. We never see him again after he becomes a frog in the manga, and no other wildlife appeared with the Namekians when the wish was made, so either that frog was the only wildlife on the entire planet, or wildlife got left behind and Ginyu died when the planet exploded.

edited 28th Feb '15 4:45:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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#9733: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:46:45 PM

[up]If that's true, Porunga is a dick to animals.

edited 28th Feb '15 4:47:02 PM by LOLypop1224

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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#9735: Feb 28th 2015 at 4:57:08 PM

And crabs.

edited 28th Feb '15 4:57:48 PM by WillKeaton

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9736: Feb 28th 2015 at 5:02:04 PM

To my knowledge, that's filler-only.

Making it more interesting than the shitty manga then.

Everytime I say "my favorite thing is x" or "I really liked x" Saiga keeps saying it's filler.

The manga doesn't have any of the things I actually like about this shitty ass series so let it burn.

edited 28th Feb '15 5:15:01 PM by unnoun

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9737: Feb 28th 2015 at 6:03:10 PM

I think bad filler should apply to Saiga's disdain.

But I agree that stuff that is genuinely entertaining, and doesn't contradict the original Manga (or even enhances it) shouldn't be tossed out just because it wasn't in said manga.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#9738: Feb 28th 2015 at 6:54:37 PM

Not tossing stuff out isn't in the manga.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9739: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:48:13 PM

Just pointing out something is filler doesn't mean anything. Not everyone wants to take filler into consideration for themselves, so it's good to specify when something is filler.

Like those crabs.

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#9740: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:50:29 PM

If you're a DBZ fan, and you don't have Flow's Head-Cha-La on your iPod, you're not a DBZ fan. Juuuust wanted to say that, because this song is amazing.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#9741: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:52:03 PM

I'm a DBZA fan. Can't say the same for the source material.

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#9742: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:52:24 PM

I'm more of a We Gotta Power! kind of guy.

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#9743: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:53:24 PM

That is acceptable.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#9744: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:57:51 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] That said, despite the use of the term being technically correct, using "filler" and an indicator in all situations is misleading because - especially when it comes to anime - people have the preconception of filler being meandering stretches of times where nothing happens, which DBZ does have a problem with but which in no way shape of form constitutes enough of the anime-only content to be as applicable as it seems at first glance. The separation between literal filler (that is, content created in wait for more source content to work from, and/or to extend a plot from a shorter medium to a longer medium) and the more generally perceived type of filler isn't very wide (And that's not even getting into the knee-jerk issues people have with oneshots that are neither forms of filler, but that's digressing).

I've always felt just specifying that something is from the anime is better than tagging the word filler on it, since it's a great deal more indicative. Filler, when used to describe anime, tends to come with an implied negativity.

As a note: this should probably go double for trope pages, since in the past the DBZ trope page has had the issue of people overemphasizing that anything that isn't manga-only is filler and/or making vague implications that being filler makes it meaningless - which is not how we should be doing things.

edited 28th Feb '15 10:02:45 PM by KnownUnknown

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9745: Feb 28th 2015 at 9:59:21 PM

Meh. Filler earned its bad reputation, and since all of the anime-only material was put in their to fill time, it is still filler.

Well, stuff like Dodoria killing Cargot instead of Freeza is anime only but not filler, that's the kind of thing I'd avoid calling filler.

edited 28th Feb '15 10:00:43 PM by Saiga

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#9746: Feb 28th 2015 at 10:07:06 PM

Literally speaking, most moments in an anime are filler. Every single moment in a fight that's not from a specific panel, supplementary material that isn't in the source, scenes that expand moments from other scenes, they're all under the extremely broad purview of filler - it quite literally applies to the vast majority of anything that occurs in an animated adaptation.

As such, because it is so universal speaking of filler in general while applying the poor reputation of specific examples is misleading if not outright incorrect, no matter how fervently one believes that reputation is deserved.

On an only tangentially related note, I disagree that we need to reiterate that something is filler whenever anything from the anime is brought up, simply because anyone here who would care about the distinction probably already knows what is or isn't filler in the first place.

edited 28th Feb '15 10:12:08 PM by KnownUnknown

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9747: Feb 28th 2015 at 10:07:40 PM

I'm more of a We Gotta Power! kind of guy.

Indeed. I felt We Gotta Power was pretty good.

Though the Flow version of Cha la head cha la is nice as well.

What's the opinion of Dragon Soul?

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#9748: Feb 28th 2015 at 10:12:05 PM

While I like Cha-La-Head-Cha-La more, I still have a soft spot for We Gotta Power. Mostly because the visuals in the opening make me feel like I'm watching a completely different show.

Dragon Soul is cool, but I feel it's overly simplistic. The openings are all gorgeous, though.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#9749: Feb 28th 2015 at 10:12:55 PM

For me, the greatest Dragonball main theme will always be Makafushigi Adventure.

edited 28th Feb '15 10:13:46 PM by KnownUnknown

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9750: Feb 28th 2015 at 10:18:48 PM

I don't care much for Dragon Soul.


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