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#9351: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:58:52 AM

And then the villains got more and more regenerate-y, making huge impractical energy waves the only way to go.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#9352: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:13:12 AM

I'm just imagining how Kai 3 will go.

Piccolo: HELL ZONE GRENADE
17: sweet *explodes*
18: *offscreen* dumb
17: *unharmed, looks to the side* The fuck is that!?
Cell: I'm hilarious, and you will quote everything I say.

Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#9353: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:16:58 AM

I think I liked that fight in the anime so much because it was so evenly matched, most other fights in the show are just so one-sided they are boring

plus the animation in the second part helped (the art not as much)

edited 3rd Feb '15 8:17:16 AM by Medigo03

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#9354: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:45:30 AM

[up][up]Cell does have some Nappa in him.

Addition: Nappa did say that right or was that just a Guru quote?

edited 3rd Feb '15 9:02:03 AM by GethKnight

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#9355: Feb 3rd 2015 at 9:21:58 AM

[up]He did.

Yeah, Hellzone Grenade is a favorite of mine. In terms of attacks DBZ very quickly degenerated to everything being a beam, a volley, or a ball, with minimal variance between them. Hellzone Grenade was cool and actually had some utility, what with basically trapping a guy in a controlled explosion.

The Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack is another favorite of mine for similar reasons.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#9356: Feb 3rd 2015 at 9:57:04 AM

All of Gotenks' attacks were solid gold.

Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#9357: Feb 3rd 2015 at 10:10:53 AM

Majin Buu agreed

and the Cell Saga has at least one more creative use of energy beams

edited 3rd Feb '15 10:13:34 AM by Medigo03

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#9358: Feb 3rd 2015 at 10:51:15 AM

Hellzone Grenade is a good one.

Alongside the piercing nature of Special Beam Canon.

We've already discussed how the best attacks aren't just your basic beam attacks, or energy spams haven't we?

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#9359: Feb 3rd 2015 at 11:38:07 AM

And scars mind's eyes.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9360: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:21:20 PM

While Hellzone Grenade was a cool name for an attack, my favorite's still the Instant Kamehameha, if not just for Cell's reaction.

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#9361: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:41:49 PM

Kienzan was so good the only way to keep Goku the hero of the series was to make Krillin just never use it because... reasons.

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#9362: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:42:37 PM

Can't Vegeta do that though? And Frieza? And some other people?

Or are theirs not as good?

Oh really when?
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#9363: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:44:13 PM

Vegeta can but he doesn't, because Vegeta likes to be a sledgehammer. Tactics are lost on him.

The one time Frieza did it, the attack proved potent enough to kill even Frieza.

edited 3rd Feb '15 12:44:59 PM by TobiasDrake

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#9364: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:52:53 PM

Wouldn't work on Cell or Buu.

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#9365: Feb 3rd 2015 at 12:58:21 PM

Can work on Cell, but the likelihood of hitting is core is terrible. Possible, not probable.

Utterly harmless against Buu.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#9366: Feb 3rd 2015 at 1:21:28 PM

Krillin scored a direct hit to Cell's neck and it simply shattered.

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#9367: Feb 3rd 2015 at 1:22:11 PM

1) That was filler, and 2) even if we ignore that it was filler, that's a sleight against Krillin's power level, not the Kienzan. Frieza's was probably stronger than Krillin's because that's how power levels work.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#9368: Feb 3rd 2015 at 1:41:03 PM

Krillin removed the tip of Freeza's tail. And Cell is stronger than Freeza. Not really sure what is being discussed, power levels are bullshit anyway.

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#9369: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:13:23 PM

[up]They aren't.

The scene you're describing is filler, but in-canon it would've probably been the same result. The Kienzan is Krillin's ki, but compressed really finely to increase cutting power, like how Piccolo's Makankosappo is more suited for drilling. What's important to take from that is the abilities aren't magic and are limited by their users' respective power levels.

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Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#9371: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:44:20 PM

Krillin also had that nice

Slowbeam>splitting into sixfastbeams trick

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9372: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:55:22 PM

[up][up][up]

But then the problem is that the disc cut Frieza anyway, who is leagues above Krillin. Krillin's Ki must be a helluva thing.

edited 3rd Feb '15 3:02:04 PM by FOFD

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9373: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:57:52 PM

Cell can heal, so even if it had cut him it'd still be mostly useless.

It seems like making it so it couldn't cut him would just be pointlessly rude though.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#9374: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:01:16 PM

The Kienzan cuts anything in canon, but is used as The Worf Effect in filler. Just like the Makankosappo pierces through anything in canon, but in filler it is consistently punched away.

And Cell's core... I think the Instant Kamehameha got that one, alongside Cell's entire upper torso. But he could regenerate due to still having plenty of body left. Or something.

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#9375: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:07:42 PM

[up][up][up][up]I don't recall that. What was that called?

Then there was Yamcha's controllable Spirit Ball, Tien's Cast from Hit Points Tri-Beam, and Burter and Jeice's Seizure Procedure...


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