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Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#9326: Feb 2nd 2015 at 11:52:54 AM

Yes to be fair to Picollo, he (and everyone else) did not know how powerful Cell had become until Cell powered up in front of them.

That and he was surprised that the androids didnt even know Cell was a thing.

He does blame himself for not noticing Cells approach though, by being too caught up in the battle

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#9327: Feb 2nd 2015 at 12:23:36 PM

How would they know Cell was a thing? He's from the future. Even if they were familiar with the concept of Cell, they would only know him as a larval thing in a pod.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9328: Feb 2nd 2015 at 12:57:01 PM

"Is he your top secret project or something?"

"No no, he's in the basement... I MEAN YES! Very secret. Don't touch!"

edited 2nd Feb '15 12:57:18 PM by FOFD

Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#9329: Feb 2nd 2015 at 1:38:53 PM

dont ask me, Picollo assumed the androids already knew about Cell

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#9330: Feb 2nd 2015 at 4:34:37 PM

Piccolo's decision was indeed stupid (he vastly overestimated himself, and could only fight evenly with one of the three Androids) but that's not on the Android arc - he does that pretty consistently.

I also was just kind of confused by 18's line. Was she referring to the extreme deformation in their bodies when getting hit? Because that's not nearly as funny as the line "did I just see his foot?" from earlier.

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#9331: Feb 2nd 2015 at 4:36:47 PM

Not just the deformation, but taking turns deforming each other. Like a rubber punch tug-of-war.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#9332: Feb 2nd 2015 at 7:00:14 PM

Honestly if the fight with 17 was with someone with out infinite energy he probably would have won. Because the issue there is that Piccolo did not have infinite stamina. In terms of power I would probably put him slightly above 17 but not enough that infinite energy can make up for.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#9333: Feb 2nd 2015 at 7:47:04 PM

They're exact equals according to 16. Yeah, it was noted that 17's infinite energy would mean his eventual victory.

Piccolo knew about that in advance, though.

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#9334: Feb 2nd 2015 at 7:50:19 PM

17 vs. Piccolo really was a stupid fight. Piccolo should have known that raising his energy would give Cell the Androids' locations. And outright forgot to warn them about him. The fight was a waste of time that served 17 in Cell's platter.

At least Abridged!Piccolo has the excuse that Cell didn't tell him he wanted to find the other androids so he could eat them. As far as A!Piccolo knows, Cell wants to team up with them.

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#9335: Feb 2nd 2015 at 7:58:22 PM

Abridged Piccolo often has an excuse for Canon Piccolo's mistakes. Kuririn being the one to wish him to Namek, for instance, and Piccolo insisting it's a terrible idea.

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#9336: Feb 2nd 2015 at 8:10:24 PM

Which means that while Piccolo has the reputation for being clever and smart in canon, in the abridged version he actually deserves it.

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#9337: Feb 2nd 2015 at 10:14:37 PM

That statement doesn't correlate with the above.

Piccolo still has his moments. Like when he tried to bulldog 17 even though Nail warned him not to.

edited 2nd Feb '15 10:15:51 PM by FOFD

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#9338: Feb 2nd 2015 at 11:45:28 PM

Abridged Piccolo doesn't really do anything that smart either.

Regular Piccolo also doesn't have that rep in-universe, anyway.

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#9340: Feb 3rd 2015 at 1:31:08 AM

[up] When those Popo eyes showed up...first time I was legitimately scared of him.

edited 3rd Feb '15 1:32:17 AM by LOLypop1224

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#9341: Feb 3rd 2015 at 1:33:47 AM

...the Stanley Parable.

Fuck yes.

but HOW?
JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#9342: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:47:19 AM

I swear, when I first watched Piccolo vs 17 back in the day, I thought it was pretty awesome that Piccolo was actually standing a chance against these guys. Then TFS showed exactly how the fight went and jeez, did it have dumb moments. The backflips were funny enough, but the tug-of-war push that looked like a children's playground game had me in stitches.

Also, as someone who grew up with a bit of a Gag Dub of Dragon Ball, I agree that the series wasn't that serious to begin with. The Portuguese version of the Cell saga had Cell cracking jokes at everything that moved, from Trunks' unusually long stare, to him kicking 16's head like a football.

It also featured Dr.Gero claiming that Vegeta gave 19 a disability, 16 claiming that they can enter Goku's house because he has a copy of his key (they really did open it peacefully), and Piccolo calling a Dende a "little green turd" (and meaning it as a compliment). There are occasions where I'm just comparing which version can get sillier.

As a side-note, I'm glad History of Trunks will call them Cyborgs. That's the name I grew up with.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9343: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:32:20 AM

We call them Androids.

but the tug-of-war push that looked like a children's playground game had me in stitches.

I think Vegeta and Buu did that too.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9344: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:32:59 AM

Buu's body is sorta meant to do that.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#9345: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:59:56 AM

Oh no, I meant the part where they have their hands clasped together, trying to push each other off their feet, and they're just yelling at the top of their lungs. Showing how it looks from 18's perspective was genius.

Maybe "Tug-of-war" is not the right word?

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#9346: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:10:57 AM

That's what I meant. Vegeta and Buu did the same. And yes, it was funny. But I think it's funny as a joke against the genre itself, because if you took the music out of certain anime fights, they'd probably look and sound ridiculous with all of the screaming. Vegeta and Buu did a similar thing, only Vegeta got steamrolled.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#9347: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:16:15 AM

Oh.

...I mean, why do the fights even have the "body gets dented by a punch" thing? In this and the 19 fight.

I'm not a roboticist, but I know the human body has a lot of very delicate parts. Most living things with organs have fairly delicate parts. Parts that can be fairly heavily damaged by having the chest caved in even temporarily. And also the chest doesn't rebound quite like that. And from what I know of most machinery, that's probably also the case. Nevermind that 17 is mostly human anyway.

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#9348: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:26:14 AM

Cartoon physics meant to sell the weight of the blows.

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#9349: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:50:20 AM

[up][up][up] Ah, yes, definitely evil grin Really good parody, though, love it that TFS doesn't take the easy route of just pointing out that something odd is happening, they actually take it to a comical conclusion (in this case, lowering the volume and taking away the music was enough).

[up][up]Artistic License. Some eyeballs double in size if someone gets their balls kicked, but it doesn't mean they went blind. Yamcha lost a tooth that grew back, too.

As a side-note, this is something I like about Buu. He's a cartoon character whose cartoon physics are taken as a serious threat. Joins the silly and the serious parts of Dragon Ball into a single villain.

edited 3rd Feb '15 6:50:42 AM by JonnasN

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#9350: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:50:49 AM

In Piccolo's defense, while the rest of the fight was incredibly stupid and his chances against 17 were never impressive, Hellzone Grenade was brilliant and probably would have done a ton of damage if 17 didn't pull out that barrier move - which he's never displayed before and thus Piccolo could not be expected to account for it. As much as I complain about the Cell Saga, Hellzone Grenade is one of my favorite moves, because of how intensely creative it is, and how cleverly tactical it is by weaponizing the opponent's own ability to dodge the attack - as opposed to most of the new techniques unveiled in this arc being "Energy attack, but BIGGER!"

edited 3rd Feb '15 7:52:54 AM by TobiasDrake

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