DBZA really doesn't "flesh out" side characters so much as they give them completely new personalities and gags. That is impossible to do in the original since Toriyama was building off Dragonball in the Z era, while these guys can do anything they want.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."![]()
I feel like there is going to be some seriousness in it. I'm assuming those lines from the trailer are in the episode, considering they finished recording.
edited 1st Feb '15 6:59:21 PM by LOLypop1224
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!I think the Bardock Special worked, though. I never thought the jokes ruined the tone of the story (except the part with the Saiyans not believing Bardock's warning). And TFS have gotten better at writing since then.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!![]()
The Bardock Special is also incredibly stupid. Like, Bardock somehow traveling back in time to become the Legendary Super Saiyan? Good luck keeping me from laughing.
DBZ grew into a serious series when it started off as a big ball of sillyness. DBZA is a big ball of sillyness that has grown to be capable of serious moments. It all works out.
edited 1st Feb '15 7:16:17 PM by Watchtower
I can't stop watching that History of Trunks teaser. It's powerful, succinct too.
History of Trunks is a strange chapter (And by that, I mean episode) in Dragon Ball when you're a kid. It doesn't quite have that happy, motivational ending you're used to. Goku, the coolest most awesomest guy ever, isn't present for most of it (and given how much of the show is saturated with Goku's presence, that's really unnerving). Most of the cast you know is dead, the Androids are worse than you remember, and Gohan's missing an arm. Trunks becomes a Super Saiyan, for all the good that does, even then he gets curbstomped. Then there's that claustrophobic sequence where Trunks is running for his life after 18 breaks his sword and Trunks's inexplicable survival.
Damn. I don't know whether to rewatch the original, or wait for the Abridged. Watching one might ruin the other.
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The positioning of Gohan and Trunks is a cute little bit of Foreshadowing
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edited 1st Feb '15 8:12:55 PM by FOFD
Team Four Star is really good at mixing the serious with the funny to accentuate both.
The Cell Saga does seem more serious than the other arcs, but that has a lot to do with the tone of the original. Cell Saga was the least intentionally silly arc of the series, and I say intentionally because there's still a lot that is ridiculous, but more along the lines of character motivations being bullshit, everyone behaving like morons, the complete and utter nonsense of Dr. Gero's actions, etc.
There's not a lot to make fun of in this arc other than how stupid everybody is.
edited 1st Feb '15 10:50:06 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I think Team Four Star have done a good job avoiding that, actually. Most of the time they're not the sort to go for low-hanging fruit.
And yeah my bad, I meant the Father of Goku. The original is very serious and bleak, but the Abridged version is almost non-stop jokes. I think it works fine and shows TFS can spoof anything without altering it a great deal.
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I don't know, 18's commentary about how the Piccolo v. 17 fight "could not get any dumber" and then how it "got so much dumber" was pretty on-the-nose.
I happen to agree, so I found the joke hilarious, but still the punchline was basically, "This scene is f*cking stupid and everyone involved is an idiot."
edited 2nd Feb '15 7:40:26 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.That fight convinced me that Namekian spines and ribcages are quite plastic, and so are the cybernetic ones. Because come the fuck on.
And I would really enjoy a Falcon Punch joke when Vegeta leaves his first mark on Cell. Mostly due to voice actor shenanigans (Vegeta's Japanese VA voices Captain Falcon in Smash, while Cell's voiced Black Shadow (the guy who got decked by a Falcon Punch in the face in the memetic clip) in the anime), but yeah...
Well yeah, there's no point comparing DBZ Abridged and the original show. As the original show is of course far better a parody of itself.
17 vs. Piccolo really was a stupid fight. Piccolo should have known that raising his energy would give Cell the Androids' locations. And outright forgot to warn them about him. The fight was a waste of time that served 17 in Cell's platter.
edited 2nd Feb '15 9:34:51 AM by nabaduco
There's also a matter of Cell being evil. The spirit bomb's energy would rip him apart.
Unless, of course, he makes his spirit bomb out of stupid energy, in which case it should be the same result as Goku absorbing the spirit bomb's energy in filler/movies/vidya games. This would also only apply to Imperfect Cell, since as Semi and Perfect Cell he has access to 17 and 18's infinite energy reactors and has no need to (or maybe he can't) absorb energy.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."

I think you explained how I feel about that perfectly.
Also GODDAMN THAT MUSIC FROM THE HISTORY OF TRUNKS SPECIAL WAS FROM SILENT F'CKING HILL. O_O
Crowning Music Of Tearjerking Awesome Nightmare Fuel
edited 1st Feb '15 6:44:25 PM by FOFD