Nail's battle power is 42,000. Post-merger Piccolo is approximately 1 million. Namekian fusion is broken no matter how much Piccolo gained from meditating by himself on Kaio-sama's planet, so trying to argue that they all must have gotten into the tens of thousands to avoid that is pointless.
Even if we're really generous and say that everyone somehow hit 50k, you still have to add an extra digit to Piccolo's battle power after the fusion. Kaio-sama's training doesn't account for jack shit, Namekian Fusion is just plain broken.
edited 29th Dec '14 11:02:09 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.And even if Piccolo did get some ridiculous boost from the training that doesn't mean that the humans necessarily had to have as well, because a) they didn't need it for anything plot related, b) Goku's training wasn't so ridiculous.
I don't even know why people would try and look to Piccolo's inconclusive training when we've got the exact numbers for Goku's and it more closely matches the time period they were there for.
edited 29th Dec '14 11:08:45 PM by Saiga
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Srs. I mean it was never said that they weren't combat geniuses but I think that's a poor reason to say that they are. Goku and Vegeta are both actually described that way, and it's especially relevant in the case with the Kaio-ken because Kaio made such a big deal about Goku being able to master it.
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I'm happy being dumb then since I like it unironically. It's always been a fun action adventure series for me. Even for all it's flaws, it's something I've always legitimately enjoyed for it's own sake even if I'm willing to laugh at it too.
edited 30th Dec '14 7:12:58 AM by Prime_of_Perfection
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◊ It's also completely in character for the Abridged Bulma and Vegeta.
edited 30th Dec '14 7:32:29 AM by DamascaRamza
It's not like the Kaioken would have contributed much anyway. The humans are so outclassed by the time Yamcha and Tien are revived that even if, say, Tien had mastered the Kaioken to a greater extent than even Goku and pulled off a Kaioken x40, he would still be far short of competing with even the base Saiyans.
The Kaioken is too little, too late to make up the difference between the humans and the rest of the cast.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Yes. Namek was candyland as far as ridiculous power-ups go. Even Krillin came away with 75,000 - stronger than any individual member of the Ginyu Force short of the Captain, and near what Goku arrived on Namek with - because of Guru's unlock ability. Piccolo and Nail's fusion is easily the most ridiculous jump, with the second-most ridiculous going to Goku's final zenkai, pushing him from 90,000 to 3 million off a single recovery.
Frieza's utterly ridiculous even by Namek's standards power level of 520,000 in his First Form and 120 million at full power necessitated completely insane power ramping by the protagonists, and between zenkai, Namekian Fusion, and Guru's Unlock ability, Namek delivered. Sadly, Tien and Yamcha missed the boat on Namek's ridiculous power boosts.
edited 30th Dec '14 10:08:16 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I like to imagine Chiaotzu's power level by the end of the series was 2. Yeah, he regressed. Seriously, why doesn't anyone shit on Chiaotzu for how worthless he is?
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edited 30th Dec '14 10:28:54 AM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.That's weaker than Raditz and I can't image he got much stronger than that, if it is true.
That's correct, and is the reason why Chiaotzu's self-destruct didn't so much as minorly inconvenience Nappa. Like Yamcha and Tien, 1,480 and 1,830 respectively, we never got a power reading on Chiaotzu after the battle with Vegeta because they missed out on Namek, which was the last time actual battle power readings were given.
Chiaotzu trained on Kaio-sama's planet and then never did anything more serious than Mountain Training with Tien, so it's unlikely that he ever grew past whatever meager gains he got from Kaio-sama.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.@Cru: If not for the interaction with Nappa (and the resulting amazing outtake
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edited 30th Dec '14 10:35:43 AM by wanderlustwarrior


Bad eye-sight be blessed.
Abridged Vegeatable seems to just care more about trivial things like damaged pride, because that's just how much of a brat he is.
edited 29th Dec '14 10:51:40 PM by randomness4
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