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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#8626: Dec 16th 2014 at 2:36:14 PM

The moment he was referring to was #11, Vegeta's sacrificial explosion against Buu.

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#8627: Dec 17th 2014 at 12:17:56 PM

Speaking of sacrifices...

Actually, this brings to mind a question I never considered until now. Piccolo is treated in-universe as being the same as King Piccolo, so why was Piccolo allowed to keep his body after his death? Compare the above moment with Vegeta's, and there's some interesting parallels. In spite of that, Piccolo got to keep his body and train with King Kai with no issue, whereas Vegeta required intervention from King Enma to regain his body after his sacrifice against Buu.

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#8628: Dec 17th 2014 at 12:24:49 PM

His link with Kami was too important, maybe?

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Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#8629: Dec 17th 2014 at 12:29:30 PM

The link would only have made things worse for Piccolo, as he is literally the embodiment of all of Kami's evil. From the moment of his creation, he was an absolute monster. Even as recently as his and Goku's fight against Raditz, Piccolo was set on killing Goku anyway, only teaming up because he saw that Raditz was the bigger threat.

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#8630: Dec 17th 2014 at 12:34:38 PM

No I mean. Perhaps his link with Kami meant he had to stick around if they planned on bringing Kami back.

But that's getting into stuff they never actually explained in the show, so.

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#8631: Dec 17th 2014 at 12:48:44 PM

I don't know... Wishing back Piccolo brought back Kami, but there's no reason to believe it wouldn't have worked the other way around.

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#8632: Dec 17th 2014 at 12:52:54 PM

Not entirely what I was doing for, but alright. Again, I'm really not sure what the answer would be. It is probably either something complicated involving afterlife rules that were never important enough to be established, or "because Toriyama wanted it to be that way."

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#8633: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:17:51 PM

Why would you assume wishing back God wouldn't revive Piccolo? The link goes both ways, and we see that reviving one revives the other.

As for Piccolo keeping his body, he was said by Goku to be less evil than Daimao even before interacting with Gohan, so Piccolo Jnr was always treated as not being as bas as Daimao.

Also in that instance it was God that gave everyone their bodies, while Vegeta would have to get his from Enma.

edited 17th Dec '14 6:20:01 PM by Saiga

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#8634: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:22:17 PM

I never said I thought that.

I intended to suggest something else that, upon reflection , makes no sense either, since Vegeta was revived when he had no afterlife body. So even if reducing Piccolo to pure soul did the same to Kami, it wouldn't have hindered either resurrection.

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#8635: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:25:51 PM

I was responding to Dragon Ranger, although I think I read their post wrong.

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#8636: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:31:57 PM

He didn't think that either. He was wondering why I thought that. Which I didn't, actually.

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#8637: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:56:34 PM

Also in that instance it was God that gave everyone their bodies, while Vegeta would have to get his from Enma.

This.

Keep in mind that Goku didn't just get his body without prompting. God had to vouch for him to King Enma. God probably did the same for Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu, and Piccolo; I mean, he was dead, but that's not really going to bar him from speaking to King Enma, is it?

Vegeta doesn't get to keep his body because he was an evil bastard and nobody on the other side is going to put in a good word for him. Piccolo was pretty evil too, but he at least had a friend on the other side who would go to bat for the idea that he was turning around. Also, Piccolo died in a genuine Heroic Sacrifice, while Vegeta's sacrifice is undermined by the fact that Majin Buu is his own damn fault.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:59:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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#8638: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:15:49 PM

Now that we're thinking about it, I wonder what Kami was doing in Otherworld while dead.

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#8639: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:42:29 PM

Pot.

He finally got the time to smoke as much as he wanted.cool

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#8640: Dec 17th 2014 at 10:17:14 PM

Smoked so much that his voice changed.

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#8641: Dec 17th 2014 at 10:27:16 PM

To something less raspy and ill.

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#8642: Dec 17th 2014 at 10:36:13 PM

It's great for his glaucoma.

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#8643: Dec 17th 2014 at 10:38:43 PM

Think Popo is high right now or is he just very scared?

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#8644: Dec 18th 2014 at 7:38:13 AM

I think he's sober and depressed. tongue

It's kind of funny though, in the first season he didn't seem to care that Kami died.

edited 18th Dec '14 7:39:07 AM by Lionheart0

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#8645: Dec 18th 2014 at 8:13:02 AM

He knew that he would come back.

Plus he gave them the location of Kami's old ship, so he was not entirely un-caring.

edited 18th Dec '14 8:14:38 AM by randomness4

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#8646: Dec 18th 2014 at 8:50:29 AM

Yeah. That was just death. This is permanent.

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#8647: Dec 18th 2014 at 2:46:25 PM

You think, once Little Green Dende returns as Earth's Guardian, someone will go "Woohoo! Death doesn't mean anything anymore!"?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#8648: Dec 18th 2014 at 2:48:42 PM

It will probably be Krillin.

Dende will immediately put in a loophole that Krillin can't be revived ever, even by the Namek Balls.cool

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#8649: Dec 18th 2014 at 2:51:27 PM

DBCEMBER #8 came out.

And nobody has mentioned their lets play of Budokai 1 yet? HOW RUDE!

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#8650: Dec 18th 2014 at 5:45:37 PM

Additional: Number 8

Number 7

edited 18th Dec '14 5:46:59 PM by GethKnight


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