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Super Buu is stronger. Super Buu with Gohan absorbed is the strongest character we ever see, save for Vegetto and later movies' introduction of God stuffs. Pure Buu is weaker than Super Buu - and orders of magnitude weaker than Buuhan - to the point that Goku and Vegeta's choice to break the Potara did not instantly render the fight unwinnable and doom the universe to annihilation.
What made Pure Buu dangerous is his complete lack of motivation. He doesn't want anything, he lacks personality and character traits. Appeals to morality, to entertainment, and to ego all fall on deaf ears. He is a mindless force of destruction willing to just go, "F*ck this planet," five seconds after awakening with no build up.
Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Pure Buu > Fat Buu
edited 12th Dec '14 7:06:35 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.@LSBK It is assuming that, because Goku only fucked up due to believing his living body could handle SS3 as well as his dead body. He simply hadn't had the experience fighting as an alive SS3 until then. If he dies, though... suddenly he's back in the situation he first expected, under limits he understands.
And I have to disagree that Pure Boo should have been bullshitted into being strongest. I actually appreciate that Toriyama didn't backtrack on Goku being weaker than Gohan/Gotenks when he decided to force Goku into the MC role again. Nice to have some consistency... even if he totally failed to make Pure Boo a legitimate threat.
The reason for the Super/Kid power confusion comes partially from Kid being the final villain (which lots of folks assume means strongest) and mostly from the anime saying he is the strongest 2 or 3 times. But the anime was all over the place on that - it still kept the lines saying Super was stronger, and even added new lines and scenes to suggest Super was stronger in addition to what they added to say Kid was stronger. Fuck the what.
the manga is consistent in Super being stronger than Kid.
edited 12th Dec '14 7:14:14 AM by Saiga
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Very much so, yes.
For as much as fans talk about the Saiyans being the ultimate things in existence, Majin Buu outclasses all the Saiyans. The only one that could actually compete with him was Gohan and even then, only after having his power unlocked by Old Kai.
Ultimate Gohan > Majin Buu > The god-humiliating Saiyan characters > The Supreme Kais > Frieza > The rest of the universe.
edited 12th Dec '14 9:27:07 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Stupidly strong. As strong as Charlie from Street Fighter. There would be no plot if he existed.
edited 12th Dec '14 9:38:24 AM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.Gokan would have done to Super Buu what Vegetto could effortlessly have done to Pure Buu.
Even a Super Buu that paradoxically managed to absorb Gohan despite the fusion.
edited 12th Dec '14 9:39:39 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.We're never told exactly why Gohan can't become a Super Saiyan anymore, just that he can't. The Ultimate Gohan power-up is applied to his base, rather than being a transformation, so IF Gokan retained the ability to become a Super Saiyan 3 from Goku on top of Gohan's Ultimate upgrade, it should work exactly like you'd think it does. 400x Ultimate Gokan.
Which is probably enough power to destroy the universe by breathing too hard. Super Saiyan 3 Gokan could make short work of just about anything in a couple minutes, which is good because Super Saiyan 3's caustic power drain would guarantee he only had a couple minutes to do it in.
If, on the other hand, Gokan retained Gohan's inability to transform, he would just have to settle for being the most powerful being imaginable, rather than a wandering annihilation zone that blows up galaxies every time he blinks.
edited 12th Dec '14 12:56:46 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.But Boo could only stand up to the Saiyans because he absorbed the Kais. The original Boo is comparable to Goku, and simply has the advantages of stamina and regen, but does still risk getting killed in a confrontation with Goku. On his own Majin Boo outclasses... Vegeta, and the individual kids.
Also Gotenks was stronger than Evil Boo. The fact that he fucks around and wastes his time limit doesn't mean he can't compete with him, he just wastes that opportunity.
On Gokan and Super Saiyan - Gohan was told to become a Super Saiyan when he turned Ultimate, so if Gokan tries to transform he'll likely just power up.
On the other hand, Old Kaioshin said that if Goku and Gohan fused, they'd beat Boo without needing Super Saiyan. It'd be a bit weird for him to say that if Gokan couldn't turn Super Saiyan at all, or already had superior power due to the Ultimate state. But he was saying this in response to Goku wondering if he should turn Super Saiyan before fusing with Gohan, so he might just be talking about Goku individually.
It's hard to say what would happen when two characters with different power ups fuse.
edited 12th Dec '14 3:49:48 PM by Saiga
I discounted Gotenks for the same reason I discounted Vegetto; when I say Majin Buu outclasses the Saiyans, I mean individually. If Gohan and Uub used a Potara, they could probably beat Vegetto, but that doesn't change the fact that Vegetto is the strongest character ever to appear in the story.
1v1, Ultimate Gohan is the only Saiyan that could reliably win against Pure or Super Buu. Goku only counts if he's dead. Purely by the numbers, Majin Buu tops the charts, save for Gohan squatting on his head. That he lost is a product of the fact that the protagonists are not, by any means, required to compete 1v1,
edited 12th Dec '14 5:33:08 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say here. This doesn't seem to be related to anything.
Out of the five Saiyans you've counted, yes only Gohan beats out Boo. But that still means Boo isn't on top by any definition, making the comparison rather pointless.
Depends on his traning, I think. He probably has at least as much potential powerr, and learning proper fighting (as opposed to Buu's almost entirely self-taught technique) could only help him.
Then again, different fusions take different things into account. Piccolo's fusion with Kami powered him up a lot more than simple addition would've done, for example. My thinking is that he gained Kami's full potential power with that one (which would be basically equal to his own minus Nail's, I guess).
So, who knows if Potara fusion with Uub would be more powerful with more training.
edited 12th Dec '14 6:36:36 PM by Enlong
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My understanding is that Buu got progressively more dangerous as he got weaker. His mind was tied to his power and he tossed out large amount of his power with his restraints.
Of course, I've never watched the show, this is all second-hand at best.