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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#7626: Sep 3rd 2014 at 8:27:14 AM

ZENKAI! Tensa Saiyangetsu! Getsuga Blutz Wave!

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#7627: Sep 3rd 2014 at 2:00:00 PM

The video in question. Kyle Hebert's response and his revenge.

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#7628: Sep 3rd 2014 at 2:33:49 PM

Goku also gained Super Saiyan 3 this way (and you can see him meditating in Other World in the manga/anime).

Hold on, when was this? I've been looking for that scene. Is it during the Other World Tournament, or a short time before Goku came back to Earth?

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#7629: Sep 3rd 2014 at 4:10:02 PM

So, do you guys think the series was better in the first two seasons, because a common complaint I see on You Tube is people complaining about how these episodes have basically turned into just shorter versions of the real series.

That doesn't make sense to me, considering the actual characters wouldn't ever say 90% of the things the abridged characters, but I'm just wondering.

Personally, I think this part in the series is just more serious and in order for jokes to make sense they have to more closely follow the basic story line, it doesn't mean they're cutting out the funny or just shorting the actual episodes.

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#7630: Sep 3rd 2014 at 4:14:22 PM

'Shorter version of the original series+ jokes' Is pretty much exactly what the series sells itself as, so phrasing that as a complaint is pretty asinine.

But- looking just at the latest episode, I'm pretty sure Cell's characterization is pretty different.

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#7631: Sep 3rd 2014 at 4:17:13 PM

Well, it is You Tube...but I've seen it fairly often. I was just wondering if any of you share that opinion.

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#7632: Sep 3rd 2014 at 4:56:51 PM

Cell, like the rest of the cast, is an exaggerated version of the original character. Specifically, the fondness for fighting and new challenges that prompted him to resurrect the Tenkaichi Budokai as the Cell Games.

Most of the cast take certain traits, exaggerate them, then ground the rest in modern...I'm not really sure what the word is, but they talk and act more like people you'd meet on the street than iconic characters.

edited 3rd Sep '14 4:58:53 PM by TobiasDrake

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#7633: Sep 3rd 2014 at 5:26:59 PM

[up]X4 The show's still funny to me, although I must admit that the past 3 or 4 episodes haven't been as funny. It's still great though.

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#7634: Sep 3rd 2014 at 5:29:52 PM

I've seen people praise it for being a better short vesion of DBZ than Kai was, so there's that.

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#7635: Sep 3rd 2014 at 6:17:27 PM

I don't mind Season 3 overall, but Episode 43 in particular was kind of boring to me. Dunno' why.

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#7636: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:00:28 PM

I think they consider this the start of season 4 right?

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#7637: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:03:26 PM

My only complaint about season 3 so far is that it isn't quite abridged enough. Some episodes feel like filler. Funny filler, but nevertheless a bit of a letdown if it means having to wait a whole month longer for something plot-relevant to happen.

So that's more a problem with the release schedule than the actual writing quality, not that I expect them to go faster.

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Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#7638: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:04:02 PM

I guess you could say they seem to be introducing fewer out-of-left-field embellishments on the characters as with, say, Nappa being a Manchild, Popo being an Eldritch Abomination, or Guru being a genocidal monster.

I haven't been enjoying the season any less myself, although I've been looking forward to their spin on Cell in particular since that's where I was introduced to DBZ myself. I think that kind of major character derailment probably has to be used sparingly. I mean, people complained about Nappa and Popo a lot as it was.

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#7639: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:08:51 PM

Android 19 is pretty far removed from the source, albeit as more of an intense exaggeration than something completely out of left field like the three you mentioned.

edited 3rd Sep '14 7:09:25 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#7640: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:16:25 PM

I did a complete rewatch recently and I actually found the first season almost painful at points, particularly the first few episodes. It's to be expected but I feel that they hit their stride around the end of season one and then mastered it during season two. Season three has been slower, but I don't really doubt that it's leading to something good, and it's been enjoyable nonetheless.

Plus I didn't honestly think it was possible to make Vegeta more of a dick than he was in the series, but then his interactions with Trunks happened. So there's that.

edited 3rd Sep '14 7:18:19 PM by Grahf

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#7641: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:18:56 PM

I don't remember people complaining about Nappa; he's pretty beloved, especially compared to the flat, empty vessel of combat he was in the original. Nappa didn't have a personality in the original, he was just Vegeta's thug.

I have heard complaints about Popo, but more about the joke of him being more powerful than everyone having run its course now that the cast is getting more powerful.

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#7642: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:19:52 PM

Have to agree that season one is pretty lacklustre in comparison to 2 and 3. Too much referential humor.

I don't really understand the Popo hate, personally. It's not as if he appears in every single episode or something. The joke's still amusing to me, though it was interesting to see another side of him when high.

edited 3rd Sep '14 7:21:54 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#7643: Sep 3rd 2014 at 7:25:39 PM

I'm still expecting Super Buu killing everyone on the Lookout to be the send-off of the Popo running gag, kind of like how the Kaio-What gag got its finale with Frieza's Subversion and the Kaio-crap! punchline.

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#7645: Sep 4th 2014 at 1:13:41 AM

So is "zenkai" like a copyrighted DBZ thing or is it just a word anyone can use? Because I'm writing a story where someone (an antagonist) has a similar ability to grow stronger the more they fight powerful opponents, and I was wondering if I'd catch any flak for using it.

Well, no it's not copyrighted since it doesn't come from the series at all. It's a purely fan term. I'd suggest using a different term though, since it's a random Japanese word that doesn't really fit the actual power up very well.

According to the Dragon Ball wiki, zenkai means "Full Release".

Which is one of the possible meanings, another is also "recovery" which could be where the fan term came from (and makes more sense to me, anyway).

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edited 4th Sep '14 1:18:40 AM by Saiga

Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#7646: Sep 4th 2014 at 1:50:52 AM

That joke doesn't really make sense though. By this point in the show, he's the only human character who does anything relevant.

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#7647: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:10:39 AM

He's also a moderately sized part of why Cell absorbs Android 18. The major part is Vegeta's pride, desire for a fight and stopping Trunks from killing Cell now while he can, but Krillin also destroys the device that could shut her down out of some attraction that was barely hinted at.

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#7648: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:11:06 AM

Being relevant doesn't mean being strong. Also, he's not being measured by a human in this instance.

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#7649: Sep 4th 2014 at 3:38:49 AM

Yeaaaah... I didn't really like that joke's concept or execution. Oh well, can't win em all over.

So what kind of father was future-Trunks' own Vegeta like? I ask because I'd just rewatched the scene where Trunks first appears, with Vegeta's scream.

edited 4th Sep '14 5:34:58 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#7650: Sep 4th 2014 at 5:28:45 AM

At least Krillin's taking it in stride. Yamcha outright ditched his friends when they were fighting killer robots from the future. (Though, to be fair, that was a blatant diss)


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