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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#7476: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:27:21 PM

He's too delusional. At least in the original series.

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#7477: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:31:59 PM

I feel like fusing with Goku would give him a horrifying realization of just how weak he actually is.

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#7478: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:32:30 PM

Wonder how TFS is gonna portray Hercule. My gut says a pro wrestler pastiche, but they already did that with Recoome.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7479: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:34:05 PM

Probably more along the lines of film star, given the post-Namek stuff with Nappa. He'll probably be an insane celebrity type.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#7480: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:41:14 PM

See now, Moth actually gets it. This is exactly what I was going for.

Sincerity Mode here: After they fought, when did Vegeta ever surpass Goku again? Remember, he cried over the fact that Goku was constantly more powerful than him. Also, I feel you're blowing my attitude towards Vegeta far out of proportion, Saiga.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#7481: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:42:06 PM

What if Goku just fused with the strongest person there: Buu?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7482: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:46:37 PM

No, I don't think I am, because that's all you ever have to say on him and it comes up a lot.

In answer to your question: after Goku shows up on Namek, and Vegeta gets the senzu, he surpasses Goku there through Zenkai. Then at the beginning of the Android arc, when Vegeta shows up, Piccolo (and later Goku) admit he's surpassed Goku. Then there's the second Zenkai against Freeza and the Grade II stuff but he was already stronger than Goku at those points so I guess those don't count.

Goku surpassed him more often (arrival at Namek, arrival at Freeza, Cell Games) by one occasion. Maybe you could count Super Saiyan 3 surpassing Vegeta since he only showed that after Vegeta caught up to him, but he had that all along so it fits more with the examples of Vegeta getting further ahead after already being stronger.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#7483: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:49:24 PM

Would the Heart Virus have given Goku a power up? He'd have been continuously close to death a lot during that time, right?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7484: Aug 28th 2014 at 7:51:12 PM

I used to think that, but after recovering from it Goku says he's still weaker than Vegeta, so natch.

The near-death power ups stopped after Freeza, except for Cell's one. And that required him being reduced to just his regenerative nucleus.

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#7485: Aug 28th 2014 at 8:19:56 PM

[up][up][up]When was the last time?

[up][up][up][up]I'd laugh if he convinced Buu to put the earring on. I'd have loved to see what would happen then.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#7486: Aug 28th 2014 at 8:55:01 PM

I keep getting the image of Goku lying in bet nearly dying from the heart disease, getting a huge powerup when he doesn't die, which puts even more strain on his heart, causing him to nearly die from the heart disease, getting a huge powerup when he doesn't die, which puts even more strain on his heart...

Granted it doesn't actually work that way, but still.

KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#7487: Aug 28th 2014 at 10:31:08 PM

Wasn't there a Hand Wave at some point that becoming a super saiyan stops you from getting zenkais? Not stated in the actual series, just something Toriyama eventually said to explain why they didn't keep getting much stronger after recovering from the beatings they took.

edited 29th Aug '14 9:15:14 AM by KBSL

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7488: Aug 28th 2014 at 10:36:21 PM

The wording was very vague and could mean they stopped happening, didn't happen often, or stopped being large enough to matter.

More or less saying that they weren't able to rely on them any more to make up the strength differences.

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#7489: Aug 29th 2014 at 5:59:51 AM

That would've been a nice point for the humans to start catching up. But, alas.

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#7490: Aug 29th 2014 at 6:12:21 AM

Humans in DBZ? The poster children for Can't Catch Up? Perish the thought, revive it with the Dragon Balls, then perish it again.

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#7491: Aug 29th 2014 at 8:39:33 AM

Remember, Toriyama was under strict instruction to only make Goku matter, that he was all that mattered.

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#7492: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:02:37 AM

If Yamcha and Mr. Satan performed the Fusion Dance, would the result be a black hole of energy that sucks the power out of everything it touches?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#7493: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:18:51 AM

No, because Mr. Satan is very powerful.

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#7494: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:34:27 AM

Yeah, he'd be the best fighter in the world if all his buddies weren't saiyans

Oh really when?
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#7495: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:37:22 AM

He's more powerful than Saiyans. Remember, he's the one who defeated Cell and Buu.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#7496: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:51:01 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
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#7497: Aug 29th 2014 at 12:11:49 PM

Vanilla humans knew how to use Ki back in Dragonball, remember. I guess there was a lack of old hermit masters and their pupils entering the tournament in th years that Hercule attended.

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#7498: Aug 29th 2014 at 1:27:49 PM

I wonder how Hercule compares to the invisible guy or those others from DB.

So I guess Yamcha had too much pride to earn money from competing while everyone else had retired from tournaments?

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#7499: Aug 29th 2014 at 1:54:23 PM

To be fair to Mr. Satan, while ki attacks did exist when Goku was a kid, they were rare as hell. Master Roshi's Kamehameha was the only one in public knowledge, and it was considered a super-special technique that ONLY the great Master Roshi is capable of performing.

When the main characters enter the three Tenkaichi Budokais we see, they're all treated as insanely powerful, unprecedentedly gifted people who far exceed what anyone else on the planet is capable of.

As for Yamcha, the three times he entered the Tenkaichi Budokai, he suffered a humiliating, crushing defeat in the first round - first to Jackie Chun, then to Tien, and then again to Hero. The reason why he never went back is probably because he cut his losses due to not wanting to get his ass kicked anymore.

edited 29th Aug '14 1:55:37 PM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#7500: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:58:11 PM

Krillin Plays: Five Nights at Freddy’s

Poor Krillin.

...Surprised they haven't done a "Yamcha Plays" yet.

edited 29th Aug '14 2:58:42 PM by unnoun


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