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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#7426: Aug 26th 2014 at 6:06:41 PM

No, they got out of that box and showed up in Battle of Gods.

Lunch, however, is probably getting a little lonely in there.

edited 26th Aug '14 6:07:00 PM by TobiasDrake

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#7427: Aug 26th 2014 at 6:12:06 PM

Ah, neat. Haven't seen that movie yet.

940131 Since: Feb, 2014
#7428: Aug 26th 2014 at 6:56:45 PM

Lunch was in Yo Son Goku Returns, but that was a while ago now.

[up]X8 Right. It was Goku. That's probably my second favorite filler scene after the driving test.

edited 27th Aug '14 4:20:17 PM by 940131

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#7429: Aug 27th 2014 at 2:40:35 AM

Wait, seriously? That scene is The Reveal for Cell having everybody's techniques. How does the manga handle it?

As said, the Kamehameha is the reveal, which is why it's more dragged out and dramatic than the Makankosappo. Watching the episode reminded me of how jarring it was in the anime - Cell pulls out the Makankosappo, a technique only used by Piccolo in a single battle, and then still uses the Kamehameha scene as the big reveal.

Also yes, the Goku-rock thing was filler and inspired by the Roshi-Chichi thing. Though there's alsoa Boo arc scene where Goku blows up old Kaioshin to see how good he is - but that's because he actually had doubts about Kaioshin than expecting him to masterfully counter it.

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#7431: Aug 27th 2014 at 8:06:14 AM

Kamehameha seems underwhelming for a reveal. That the Special Beam Cannon was only used once by Piccolo makes it unique; a lot of people have done the Kamehameha, and Cell wouldn't be the first villain to crib a technique off the protagonists, with both Vegeta and Frieza stealing the kienzan from Krillin.

If Cell hadn't exposited about his origins just then, Piccolo probably would have flown back to Kame Island and gone, "Hey, Master Roshi, did one of your students turned into a giant cicada monster, or did it just watch someone do it and instantly learn it like Goku that one time that I don't actually know about?"

The Kamehameha is the Village Bicycle of Dragon Ball techniques; more people perform it than the Solar Flare.

edited 27th Aug '14 8:06:55 AM by TobiasDrake

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#7432: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:02:38 AM

IIRC, this fight is a bit more of curbstomb in the manga. Not that Cell is winning or anything here, but goes a lot quicker in the manga and turns into a more drawn out brawl otherwise. That definitely happens in other situations too, but it struck me right away here (the Cell Saga being the only arc whose manga I remember for the most part, since it's my favorite saga and I bought both manga and anime).

In any case, I also hope they have Krillin saving that girl from Cell in the next installment. Not only is it an awesome moment for Krillin even though Cell does kick his ass, but the sporadic creepy scenes of Cell hunting down the populace are some of my favorite parts of the storyline - it really adds to his scariness factor.

Though if they do, I hope they lampoon how the music in the dub had Cell walking to the beat. Maybe by making the music something over the top or something.

edited 27th Aug '14 9:04:50 AM by KnownUnknown

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7433: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:10:56 AM

"Shenron, I wish for you to trap Cell inside a ball of bedrock, and then launch that ball as close as you can to the sun ten times faster than the speed of light."

Would the ball shatter beneath Cell's feet, or would he break out before it made any difference? What if they'd try'd it while he was sleeping before the Cell games?

edited 27th Aug '14 9:17:49 AM by FOFD

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#7434: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:24:27 AM

Real life bedrock is not like Minecraft bedrock, it's not a specific type of super strong rock. It wouldn't make any difference.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7435: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:39:07 AM

Doesn't need to be super-strong, what if it's transported at such a speed Cell doesn't react in time?

We've seen them shatter rock in their hands/feet, but we've also seen large formations rise underneath them, without them automatically tearing through it. When they power up and zip forward sure, they start eating through the stuff. But here, in one moment, they're standing on an island, the next, the island shoots into the sky at magical speeds.

Shenron can't move figures of Super Saiyan-level power stronger than Kami without their consent, but manipulating the environment around them? That seems doable.

For that matter, how does that consent work? Did Goku receive a telepathic message from Shenron, requesting permission? Can Shenron, by order of the wisher, lie to the person being transported?

edited 27th Aug '14 9:40:50 AM by FOFD

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#7436: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:44:20 AM

Porunga, I wish you could make Shenron capable of granting wishes that affect beings more powerful than him.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7437: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:53:28 AM

Hell, fuse Porunga with Shenron, double the wishing power.

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#7438: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:55:47 AM

Hmm... What if Porunga and Shenron did the fusion dance? Could you make wishes off the fused dragon, then wait for them to unfuse, then make wishes on the unfused dragons?

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#7439: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:55:59 AM

I don't think it works that way. Isn't the power of a Dragon dependent on the power of the one who made them or something?

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#7440: Aug 27th 2014 at 9:59:19 AM

And how could Shenron even do the dance with his little tiny arms?

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#7441: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:00:06 AM

Hilariously, that's how.

Oh really when?
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#7442: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:00:36 AM

"Shenron, I wish for you to have longer, retractable arms!"

EDIT: You know what I wish for? A fan comic where Bulma became a mad scientist instead of an explorer.

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edited 27th Aug '14 10:05:00 AM by FOFD

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#7443: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:02:53 AM

What if someone did the earring fusion with Shenron?

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#7444: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:19:34 AM

In order to move a ball of rock around Cell, Shenron would have to be able to move Cell. The force pushing back against him would not only be the rock, but Cell inside of it.

It's like trying to move Vegeta's Saiyan Battle Armor while he's wearing it; you have to be able to overcome his resistance too, not just the armor's.

edited 27th Aug '14 10:19:54 AM by TobiasDrake

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#7445: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:26:50 AM

Guys, let's stop trying to move dudes into the sun and instead move the sun to the dudes.

Oh really when?
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#7447: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:44:54 AM

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Oh really when?
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#7448: Aug 27th 2014 at 11:14:08 AM

>Wish on the Dragon Balls to make the sun explode next to Earth in a half an hour

>Goku uses IT to transport the main cast to King Kai's planet

>Cell is destroyed in the ensuing supernova

>Gather the balls again/use your remaining two wishes (depending on the dragon) to restore Earth, its people, and the sun

>Live happily ever after

So many problems could have been solved by creative use of dem balls.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#7449: Aug 27th 2014 at 11:32:51 AM

"transport a cell sized part of the sun's core in Cell's head."

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#7450: Aug 27th 2014 at 11:53:58 AM

That probably wouldn't kill him. Like, these guys can tanks blasts strong enough to destroy entire planets; they're not going to killed by that kind of thing. The 'inside his head' part might mess up anyone else, but it's not going make much difference to someone with From a Single Cell regeneration.

edited 27th Aug '14 11:55:14 AM by Gilphon


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