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DamascaRamza (Ancient one)
#6851: Jun 17th 2014 at 5:56:07 PM

Oh wow, Kaiser had a bit of a freak out there and I don't blame the poor guy.

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#6852: Jun 17th 2014 at 5:59:36 PM

Mhm. The movie probably seems a lot more dire when you're stuck watching it over and over for the sake of editting.

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#6853: Jun 17th 2014 at 7:47:27 PM

It appears we may or may not end up getting another World's Strongest re-abridging. Considering how kickass Dead Zone was, I approve. ^_^

but HOW?
Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#6854: Jun 18th 2014 at 4:02:00 PM

You know what I wish the anime explored? Kakarot.

Not Goku, Kakarot.

I have to wonder what kind of Saiyan he would have been if he had never ended up with amnesia.

zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#6855: Jun 18th 2014 at 4:05:48 PM

I would imagine he'd be like Radditz. Or Vegeta. Or Nappa.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#6856: Jun 18th 2014 at 4:10:22 PM

I don't think he'd be as strong as Goku.

Probably smarter maybe. Less brain damage.

edited 18th Jun '14 4:10:35 PM by unnoun

zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#6857: Jun 18th 2014 at 4:12:26 PM

Yeah. He'd probably be Radditz - Nappa level strength once he got into the swing of working in the family business. Definitely smarter.

edited 18th Jun '14 4:13:05 PM by zeromaeus

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#6858: Jun 18th 2014 at 4:19:12 PM

I think that was the whole point of Turles. With the exception of the Space Pirate business, that's who Karakot would have been.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#6859: Jun 18th 2014 at 4:26:18 PM

Good point there. Didn't really think of that.

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#6860: Jun 19th 2014 at 9:58:24 PM

I wonder what they'll do with this scene (in which Vegeta and his fanboys whine and cry victim (work smarter, not harder).

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6861: Jun 19th 2014 at 11:27:47 PM

I hope they don't skip over it. With Goku as even more of a tactless idiot here and Vegeta always on the verge of a ragehol induced nervous breakdown, that scene would be glorious.

Especially if they keep in the "WHY WON'T YOU LEAVE ME ALONE!?" line.

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#6862: Jun 19th 2014 at 11:35:37 PM

Isn't Vegeta the one always starting shit, though?

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#6863: Jun 19th 2014 at 11:49:58 PM

Yeah. Pretty much since the day they met, Vegeta has belittled/attacked/tried to kill Goku. So it's nice to see Goku just go "Hey, buddy? Guess what? You ain't got shit on me." And yet, he was saying it in a way that also meant "If you really wanna get better than me, you better haul ass."

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6864: Jun 20th 2014 at 12:18:32 AM

Well, you know Vegeta. An adult with the maturity of a spoiled child. If someone won't lay down and die like their supposed to, his frustrations are all their fault.

Gohan's lucky being a Manchild isn't a genetically Saiyan thing. As far as we know, anyway...

Though now that I think about it, in the main timeline Gohan's going to be the only person with Saiyan blood who isn't either a brat or an idiot (or both). Though I'm looking forward to the little bit of "sheltered with no idea how to interact with actual people" Gohan that we get at the start of the Buu Saga.

edited 20th Jun '14 12:20:11 AM by KnownUnknown

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#6865: Jun 20th 2014 at 12:22:23 AM

The really sad thing about it is that in the first time they met, Vegeta was by Goku's own admission way above him. Then for almost the entire series after that, even though they seem to train about the same (and I could believe Vegeta trained harder), Goku was just always ahead of him for some reason.

Even with Vegeta being an asshole, you have to admit that would be a kick in the balls to always lose to someone who did what you lived for for fun.

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#6866: Jun 20th 2014 at 12:40:05 AM

Goku was trained by some of the best martial artists who ever lived, including GODS (And a talking cat). He learned from them the proper way to train as a martial artist to improve his skills and strength. Vegeta lacked that training and basically seemed to live by the idea of "If I run my head into a wall enough times, it will break. I may get seven concussions, but it will break, so I will be stronger than the wall."

tl;dr: work smarter, not harder.

edited 20th Jun '14 12:40:33 AM by SonOfSharknado

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#6867: Jun 20th 2014 at 4:33:18 AM

Vegeta lucks out from the whole "Gets stronger everytime I get my ass handed too me" School of fighting. Goku still trumps him thanks to the whole "skill" thing though.

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#6868: Jun 20th 2014 at 5:26:48 AM

[up][up][up]Like I said earlier, work smarter, not harder. If you're training hard but doing it wrong, of course you won't get the biggest benefit.

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#6869: Jun 20th 2014 at 9:05:45 AM

Being The Hero helps. Goku surpassed Vegeta by spending six days banging his head against a gravity generator, then coasted along after that with the guarantee that the requisite Villain-to-Hero Badass Decay would ensure he stays on top. Vegeta did plenty of training after Namek, but it was never good enough, because as a hero, he must be weaker than Goku, standard anime mechanics demand it.

That's not to say Vegeta didn't enjoy some plot-relevant bonuses by his new role as The Lancer. Picking up the Rival Ball from Piccolo meant Vegeta, while not allowed to surpass Goku, still had to remain relevant - which, for Vegeta, meant he was able to receive the most dubious Super Saiyan transformation in the entire franchise prior to Goten and Trunks coming into existence.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#6870: Jun 20th 2014 at 12:37:38 PM

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Ha.

I wonder how, or rather if, Vegeta ever will gain any humility. They've knocked him down a notch, but not the same way canon did - plus it'd be funnier if he didn't change. But after the seriousness that took place with Goku turning Super Saiyan, and Cell's introduction, I'm not sure.

edited 20th Jun '14 12:40:01 PM by FOFD

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#6871: Jun 20th 2014 at 1:16:51 PM

Vegeta technically does finally get humility at the end of the Buu Saga. And then GT happens.

edited 20th Jun '14 1:17:04 PM by lionheart0

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#6873: Jun 20th 2014 at 2:47:32 PM

That's a weird way of spelling Battle of the Gods.

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#6874: Jun 20th 2014 at 7:50:28 PM

You're the best! Around! Nothin's ever gonna keep you down!

I find it interesting that when Goku faces off against Frieza and Cell there, he trades facial expressions. He grins and Frieza grimaces, Cell grins and he grimaces.

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#6875: Jun 20th 2014 at 8:01:21 PM

I've recently been under the impression that the difference in "power levels" (and the reason why Toriyama wanted to get away from them after a while) comes mostly from sheer raw strength, with skill being something that the scouters literally just couldn't read. This is why Goku, as weak as he was when battling against Form 4 Frieza, could still hold his own (mostly). Frieza's never had to really fight. Goku, as mentioned, has had training from the greatest martial artists in the universe.

Even Vegeta's primary tactic appears to be "blast/hit it until it's not moving anymore."

Anyone else notice how they're playing up the horror for the Cell saga? Cause Cell singing "Mr. Sandman" and saying "Hello, friend." legitimately creeped me out due to the Mood Whiplash.

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