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#6826: Jun 11th 2014 at 9:54:27 PM

Kami DAMMIT, Gohan!

Man... No abridging necessary...

Alright, upon closer rewatch, I can indeed place the theme of the Regis Mark V.

edited 11th Jun '14 10:15:46 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#6827: Jun 11th 2014 at 9:57:23 PM

I did like that Buu used the Special Beam Cannon in the anime. Shame it's filler, but at least it's the good kind.

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#6828: Jun 12th 2014 at 9:36:37 AM

[up][up]On your second link, I always found it strange how confident Goku was throughout that fight, even though Gohan was getting his ass kicked for most of it during that part, but Piccolo says Gohan isn't like him, and then he goes all "Oh shit, maybe I didn't think this through enough" face.

edited 12th Jun '14 9:36:44 AM by KBSL

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#6829: Jun 12th 2014 at 11:21:05 AM

On that note, Piccolo calling out Goku for being a complete and utter arse of a father is something I am completely looking forward to in Abridged.

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#6830: Jun 12th 2014 at 11:46:55 AM

Considering the source material, I think Team Four Star did pretty well. It's definitely one of the least interesting movies.

Hey! Cooler's Return! L-l... lore! To the Dragonball mythos! Big Gete Star! Interesting!

That's one of the few Z films I have on VHS, and I loved Meta Cooler as a villain. The army of Meta Coolers... there just wasn't a villain like him. Not only could he fix himself, but he could make himself stronger, again and again. Goku and Vegeta were royally screwed, and not because Vegeta crushed the Potara earrings out of stubbornness. The resolution was stupid, I'll admit, same as Goku sapping energy from his near-dead son and comrades, but eh.

Plus Meta Cooler knew Instant Transmission, leading to this gem.

It was more interesting than Wrath of the Dragon and Dr. Wheelo, at least!

edited 12th Jun '14 11:49:45 AM by FOFD

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#6831: Jun 12th 2014 at 2:04:58 PM

No, it's a pretty awful source material. As far as lore is concerned, the Big Gete Star was a silly Giant Space Flea from Nowhere even for this franchise, and Cooler's resurrection makes no sense. He was restored from the gibs that remained after he was blasted into the Sun? So, did the Big Gete Star actually travel into the Sun to harvest his remains, or is he just Too Cool for gravity? Because any remains would have remained in the Sun until they finished immolating.

Meta-Cooler's abilities have next to nothing to do with the actual Cooler and what he could do, his motivations are completely divorced from Cooler's characterization and motivations, and his history since the previous film is utterly nonsensical. Despite being called Cooler Returns, nothing about Meta-Cooler has any real connection to the character of Cooler. The Big Gete Star is the villain of the film, and Meta-Cooler is a cheap attempt to give a fairly shallow plot a little bit more recognizability by half-assedly stapling a popular villain into it.

The confusing plot resolution isn't the only thing awful about Meta-Cooler; nothing about it makes any sense whatsoever.

edited 12th Jun '14 2:07:01 PM by TobiasDrake

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#6832: Jun 12th 2014 at 2:45:13 PM

Also they used his base form instead of his much more groovy (avoiding puns is hard) super form.

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#6833: Jun 12th 2014 at 2:59:52 PM

I enjoyed the source personally, but yeah it was kind of a stupid plot. The TFS version does kind of a better job connecting it to the first one.

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#6834: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:20:25 PM

It is weird that they didn't use his empowered (fifth) form.

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#6835: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:23:05 PM

[up]Given how said form burned away leaving his fourth underneath... I don't think it is.

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#6836: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:25:29 PM

Ehhhh...
Ehhhhhhhh...
Ehhhhhhhhhhh...
Yep. There's the apathy.
It just woulda' been cooler with the other form.

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#6837: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:27:05 PM

It just woulda' been cooler with the other form.

... *groan*

Anyway, now that Krillin's started playing Dreadout on top of all the other horror games he's played, don't you think it's time Krillin Plays gets its own trope page instead of being an offshoot of Two Saiyans Play?

edited 12th Jun '14 6:33:53 PM by KSPAM

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#6838: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:30:26 PM

Part of me likes to think that Cooler's "fifth form" is less a natural transformation and more an artificial form he gained via technology or something (Especially with the face mask and raised shoulder things). Not to mention it contradict's Frieza's transformations.

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#6839: Jun 12th 2014 at 9:59:07 PM

I think the idea is that he and Frieza had the same natural, unsuppressed form. And then Cooler found out some kind of actual transformation, more like the Super Saiyan state.

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#6840: Jun 13th 2014 at 8:14:03 AM

That's the explanation I heard (and the one the wiki uses, I think).

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#6841: Jun 13th 2014 at 11:29:34 AM

Which would imply that all the speculation regarding King Cold being in Second Form is true, if Frieza's transformations are racial and not just a cool thing Frieza can do.

But Cooler and his fifth transformation aren't canon, so it implies that is true about King Cold only in a continuity where King Cold never actually makes an appearance, while the continuity that he does show up in what appears to be Second Form doesn't have Cooler to imply anything of the sort, so why do I taste metal?

edited 13th Jun '14 11:29:57 AM by TobiasDrake

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#6842: Jun 13th 2014 at 4:30:07 PM

Regarding video showing Pikolo's dialog to Goku during the Cell fight, I was just watching that yesterday (Kai) couldn't stop thinking that DBZA may be building up towards that scene.

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#6843: Jun 13th 2014 at 8:33:27 PM

Is the new Cooler abridged movie going to be put on youtube? I want to show my parents it.

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#6845: Jun 13th 2014 at 8:34:57 PM

It's on Youtube.

Also, if this has all been build-up for Goku to go "Holy shit, I fucked up" during the Cell fight, that will be AMAZING.

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#6846: Jun 13th 2014 at 8:52:32 PM

wild mass guessThe scene will be about Cell taking all of the food for himself or something else completely separate of Gohan.wild mass guess

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#6847: Jun 13th 2014 at 9:32:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqwvT6firTQ

Cooler's resurrection makes no sense. He was restored from the gibs that remained after he was blasted into the Sun? So, did the Big Gete Star actually travel into the Sun to harvest his remains, or is he just Too Cool for gravity? Because any remains would have remained in the Sun until they finished immolating.

Broly survived Comet Kumori destroying the planet they were fighting on. When Cooler was pressed against the sun, there was a huge explosion afterwards that could of blasted his remains far enough away, drifting through space. Frieza was a battered torso after Goku healed him, then Goku blasted him again and left him to die, and Frieza survived Namek blowing up IIRC.

Meta-Cooler's abilities have next to nothing to do with the actual Cooler and what he could do, his motivations are completely divorced from Cooler's characterization and motivations, and his history since the previous film is utterly nonsensical. Despite being called Cooler Returns, nothing about Meta-Cooler has any real connection to the character of Cooler. The Big Gete Star is the villain of the film, and Meta-Cooler is a cheap attempt to give a fairly shallow plot a little bit more recognizability by half-assedly stapling a popular villain into it.

You can Hand Wave the IT as a technique the Big Gete Star catalogued, and Meta-Cooler's other ability was regeneration and auto-adaptation, which were boss. His history was that he survived by the skin of his teeth and got lucky that the star was passing through. I concede the rest.

But Hirudegarn was just another unseen evil that made all of the other heroes look weak, and Wheelo was a damn moron, or rather his assistant, capturing Master Roshi and using the Dragonballs to thaw some ice.

edited 13th Jun '14 9:33:53 PM by FOFD

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#6849: Jun 17th 2014 at 3:47:23 PM

I think the video would've been better titled "Takahata's breakdown"

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