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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6326: Apr 6th 2014 at 9:24:04 PM

If you skipped everything in GT that was pointless and WTF-y there would be nothing left.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#6327: Apr 6th 2014 at 9:40:02 PM

Well, yes, but Super 17 was pointless even by GT's standards. At least Baby and the Shadow Dragons have a coherent plotline and lasted more than a couple of episodes.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#6328: Apr 6th 2014 at 9:56:43 PM

YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY IS LOUD! And obnoxious. Seriously, tone it down.

The next episode will get here when it gets here, guys. Be patient!

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#6329: Apr 7th 2014 at 3:02:33 AM

Sorry. sad

edited 7th Apr '14 4:33:36 AM by unnoun

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#6330: Apr 7th 2014 at 4:58:43 AM

What are you apologizing for?

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#6332: Apr 7th 2014 at 5:27:01 AM

It was mostly just miscommunication. The all-caps thing was unneeded though.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#6333: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:36:08 AM

All caps draws attention. If a miscommunication is occurring repeatedly then drawing attention might be needed, or might not. Calling it out after the discussion was over and there was a new topic was certainly unneeded.

edited 7th Apr '14 10:36:37 AM by stingerbrg

alEKos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#6334: Apr 7th 2014 at 2:15:47 PM

mmm.hope the next abridged movie is good.both Super 13 and Return of Cooler should be fun material to use.

Robotnik Since: Aug, 2011
#6336: Apr 7th 2014 at 8:41:07 PM

...Why don't you like the androids?

While this is from a while back and I'm obviously not the OP, I can give you my reason; because they're insufferably smarmy in this arc (I'm unsympathetic at best to Vegeta calling 18 a cunt).

Vegeta's a bad guy, and I get why people hate him, but I'd take him over the androids any day of the week because he's less annoying and the work doesn't shill him as much, at least not in the Cell saga.

edited 7th Apr '14 9:10:04 PM by Robotnik

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6337: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:15:25 PM

So far, I really can't tell whether Abridged is or isn't doing the "our heroes' timelines' version of the androids aren't as evil as the ones Trunks met" bit. The last couple episodes had me thinking they were doing it, but then there's their last scene in this episode.

Y'know, I nearly just called our universe DBZ Prime, but then by the way time travel works I suppose Trunks' timeline would be the Prime universe, wouldn't it? Now that's a scary thought.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#6338: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:17:33 PM

You're saying that them going to eradicate country music means they're evil?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#6339: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:18:19 PM

Yeah, given that the set-up for the gag is Trunks indicating that it was the first step of their eventual massacre. It's a throwawy gag, but it's still a different kind of gag than the ones they've been given thus far.

edited 7th Apr '14 10:19:21 PM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#6340: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:24:12 PM

But it's country music. tongue

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Robotnik Since: Aug, 2011
#6341: Apr 7th 2014 at 10:42:10 PM

[up] I think they'll still follow the basic plot from the canon series since there would probably be a lot of backlash if they strayed too far. I read the implication as being that the timeline didn't actually diverge until they met Cell, and that the androids aren't actually any different from their future counterparts personality-wise at this point.

Which makes sense, because I never bought into the idea that the androids of the main timeline were inherently less amoral than their future selves. It would have been easy to show them as having some kind of line they wouldn't cross that the 17 and 18 from the future would, but their motivations for not wreaking havoc never get any more moral than apathy or boredom until the end of the arc.

edited 7th Apr '14 10:45:40 PM by Robotnik

Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#6342: Apr 7th 2014 at 11:44:25 PM

You could see the country music thing as a sort of first step down the slippery slope. Sure, okay, country music. I wouldn't miss it. But to wipe it off the face of the earth just to eliminate the possibility you might ever be accidentally exposed to it? That's the kind of thing that's fun to contemplate, to actually DO it would require a pretty frightening level of self-absorption.

I never WAS clear on why the androids turned out so differently. I had the vague impression 16 had something to do with it, but it wasn't really spelled out, and the idea that the androids might be equally redeemable in Trunks' timeline was something Trunks was understandably not interested in pursuing. It does seem to make the most sense to presume they're basically the same, but that circumstances brought out the much darker side in the androids in the timeline where there was no one to realistically oppose them.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#6343: Apr 8th 2014 at 12:57:43 AM

I'm not sure Vegeta went Super Saiyan in the future, and I don't think 19 and 20 were a thing then either.

Things started diverging a bit before Cell.

...Once Vegeta starts calling himself "Super Vegeta" I think he starts getting shilled just a little bit.

I think the Abridged!Androids are funny and entertaining. Vegeta is a prick and needs someone or something to beat the fuck out of him once in a while.

edited 8th Apr '14 1:06:26 AM by unnoun

Robotnik Since: Aug, 2011
#6344: Apr 8th 2014 at 1:12:03 AM

...Once Vegeta starts calling himself "Super Vegeta" I think he starts getting shilled just a little bit.

Eh, that only lasts until he gets his ass handed to him by Perfect Cell thanks to his own stupidity. That he had coming.

I think the Abridged!Androids are funny and entertaining.
They just annoy me. I don't blame the abridged series for that, since it can't stray too far from the canon characterizations unless it's really funny, but I think the manga and anime made the androids out to be better than they ever showed themselves to be.

Vegeta is a prick and needs someone or something to beat the fuck out of him once in a while.
I agree with that (see Perfect Cell), but not if he's less irritating than whoever he's fighting against.

I admit to being biased, however, since Lanipator's top-of-the-line voice work pushes Abridged Vegeta towards Jerkass Woobie terriotry for me part of the time.

edited 8th Apr '14 1:24:00 AM by Robotnik

DamascaRamza (Ancient one)
#6345: Apr 8th 2014 at 1:54:04 AM

Vegeta did go Super Saiyan in Trunks' time when he fought the Androids and was killed.

Ernie AKA Kaymarx from Memphis Since: Jan, 2001
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#6346: Apr 8th 2014 at 3:29:31 AM

I think part of the reason the Androids never seem so impressive is their lack of ambition. They don't really have any vision or drive, they're not out to take the world over or destroy it or resurrect an evil god or any of that nonsense. They're a couple of punks in it for kicks. That they also happen to be absurdly powerful punks is relevant, though. They'd have ended up killing off the main cast whatever happened, because the main cast would've tried to stop them, and fuck that we're having a good time.

Should've checked the list.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#6347: Apr 8th 2014 at 4:12:23 AM

I'm not sure why the portrayal of the characters in the manga and anime is especially relevant anyway to the likability of the abridged versions anyway. They've deviated from the source material before. Like, with Ghost Nappa. Mr. Popo. Super Kami Guru. The Muffin Button. Guru's death. The Garlic Jr. Saga sorta. Dodoria being a woman. Goku getting sick from cholesterol and not a heart virus. Vegeta killing Frog!Ginyu.

...I'm actually a bit disappointed by the last one, because one of my favorite things in the anime was the way Frog!Ginyu just sort of hung around Goku's house on Earth. Became the leader of a group of local frogs. Basically took over the amphibian portion of the local ecosystem. Which Goku never bothered with what with only killing giant fish.

TFS's adaptation of the Garlic Jr. Saga made me realize that I would watch a nature documentary set in the world of Dragon Ball. I mean, they have dinosaurs, and the king of the world is a blue dog-man. Shit be wack yo.

edited 8th Apr '14 4:39:00 AM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6348: Apr 8th 2014 at 4:21:25 AM

If anything, killing the giant (known to be carnivorous) fish probably helped Ginyu's conquest.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#6349: Apr 8th 2014 at 4:26:30 AM

But seriously, why has nobody made a Dragon Ball-based nature documentary?

Especially one focusing on Frog!Ginyu. Using his military expertise and tactical knowledge to aid him. First the lily pad, then the world!

KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#6350: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:51:17 AM

I thought the Androids in Future!Trunks' timeline were evil because Dr. Gero's programming messed up in a different way the this universe (i.e. instead of just having them disobey him, they hated all of humanity), I was sure somebody said that.

I was going to say Saiga, but he hasn't posted that already, so I guess it wasn't him.


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